PHRF-NB
2023 Annual Meeting
Minutes

Date:          Wednesday, January 25, 2025

Time:         1830

Location:   Bristol Yacht Club and Zoom

Call to Order 6:35pm

Roll Call – Don Kern, 2022 Commodore; Will Museler, 2022 Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, 2022 Treasurer;  Bob Horton, 2022 Secretary; (via Zoom) Ec Helme, 2022 Committee Member; Todd Johnston, 2022 Committee Member; Vin McAteer, 2022 Committee Member; Mark Nannini, 2022 Committee Member; Matt Smith, 2022 Committee Member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator (via Zoom)

Members present: Trisha McElroy Conanicut YC & Goat Island YC, Bruce Cox, Bristol YC, Buster Pike, Twenty Hundred Club, David Schwartz, Bristol YC, Timothy Grimes NYYC & Sail Newport and Twenty Hundred Club, Mark Rotsky, Bristol YC

Approval of 2022 Annual Meeting Minutes. Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the 2022 Annual Meeting minutes.

Treasurers Report: Treasurer Roy Guay presented 2022 Financial Report including certificate tracking (copy attached) Motion made, seconded and approved to accept the 2022 annual treasurers report.

Nomination of 2023 officers –                                                                                        Commodore – Don Kern                                                                                                             Rating Chairman – Will Museler                                                                                            Treasurer – Roy Guay                                                                                                           Secretary – Bob Horton

Proposed Changes for 2023 Season:

a) Re-hosting of the existing PHRF-NB Website to a new vendor. Major change will be the payment process which will take place at the end instead of the start of the certificate.  The system will convert metric measurements to standard measurements. There will be an option to opt in or out of other organization emails with a list of accepted 3^rd PHRF-NB will send out information for NBYA when asked and appropriate.  Plan is to be live on the new platform by April 1, 2023

b) Minor updating of PHRF-NB Regulations: Any changes will be to clarify or correct existing information. The conversion adjustment for symmetrical to A-symmetrical spinnakers is being reviewed.

New Business: Questions were asked from the floor as to whether a trial certificate option would be available. Currently phone calls are received by Kathy Rotsky asking what if’s for hypothetical changes and these take time and effort to ascertain if a rating adjustment will be applied. Because of the nature of these inquiries it is difficult to create a software solution that could accurately handle these times of scenarios. Such an option was not included in the design request with the new vendor.

Mark Nannini reminded everyone that PHRF is not a Gran Prix rating system and there are automated limitations to the capabilities of local PHRF groups. The Committee will investigate the automation of the appropriate tables into application process.

Open Discussion: Thanks were extended to the individuals who attended the meeting.

Adjourned at 7:05pm

PHRF-NB
Minutes
November 2022

Date:          Monday, November 28, 2022
Time:         1830
Location:   Zoom

1. Call to Order: 6:35pm
2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore;  Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Ec Helme, committee member; Todd Johnston, committee member; Vin McAteer, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Matt Smith, committee member;  Kathy Rotsky PHRF-NB Administrator
3. Approval Meeting Minutes: The members present voted to approve the October 19, 2022 minutes
4. Appeals:
   None
5.  Ratings:
   None
6. Ratings Review:

1. a) Certificate 16326 Beneteau First SE Hawksbill

                Certificate 16993 Beneteau First 27 Benutii

A letter form David Wilson to Roy Guay prompted an in depth discussion of the 2 boats differences and similarities. Numerous searches of the internet and other PHRF areas revealed a plethora of information but none that indicated how many 27SE models were built. The owner of Hawksbill has owned and raced   a Catalina 36 with little success, racing in the Wickford weeknight series and the Solo Twin and also the Bermuda race. The move to a sport boat was described as a might leap for most sailors. Hawksbill had filed an appeal in May 2022 asking for review of his original rating of a base of 84. His appeal was successful and adjustment to 90 was made. Hawksbill raced this season in Jamestown which has windward leeward courses and the 27SE has not been competitive on such courses. A number of ratings for the Seascape 27 and Beneteau 27SE were provided by the owner to support his recent letter. After reviewing the Beneteau First 27 to the Seascape 27 and Beneteau 27SE it was agreed that the First 27 is very different compared to the other two. The 27 SE was compared to the J-92 with a base of 96, J92S base of 96 and Melges 24 base of 99. It was agreed by the members present that a new base of 96 for the Beneteau 27SE, a new base for the Seascape 27 of 99 and a new base for the Beneteau First 27 of 111 should be recorded for 2023

1. b) Certificate 16364 – Judel Vrolijk 66 – Denali

The only results in 2022 were from the Safe Harbor Regatta, (3- 1sts, 1- 4^th, 1- 5^th) indicate that the current base rating does not need to be adjusted. The members present agreed to leave the current base at -124 for 2023

1. c) Certificate 17044 – Mills 41 – Final Final

After review of the 2022 Ida Lewis race results the members present agreed to leave the current 2022 base of -30 for 2023.

1. d) Certificate 16992 – Pogo 36MH – Liberty

After review the members present agreed to leave the current 2022 base rating of 6 for 2023

1. e) Certificate16335 – Freedom 30sd – Serendipity

After review of 2022 Jamestown results of a 2^nd overall the members present agreed to leave the current 2022 base rating of 202 for 2023

1. f) Certificate 16763 – Marten 49 – Pugilist

After review of the 2022 Safe Harbor results, a 5t place in class the members present agreed to leave the current 2022 base rating of -45 for 2023

1. g) Certificate 16929 – JPK 45 – Take Two

this boat raced a number of regatta, Ida Lewis Distance, Bud Humphrey, Wickford. The boat shows speed on a beat when there is a breeze but is not a downwind star due to small sail area downwind. It won the Ida Lewis Distance race. After the review the members present agreed to adjust the 2022 base rating of 54 to 51 for 2023

1. h) Certificate 17076 – Reichel Pugh 45 – Pterdactyl

The 2022 base rating was done via email committee votes due to a last minute submission for the Safe Harbor Regatta. Based on the assigned PHRF-NB base of -66 this boat dis not race PHRF by instead raced ORC. The members present agreed to leave the base at -66 for 2023

1. i) Certificate 16370 – Camden Knockabout – Ponyo

After a short review the members present agreed to leave the 2022 base of 201 in effect for 2023.

The following boats will be reviewed prior to March of 2023

Certificate 17047 – C&C 30 Nyabinghi – 2022 base 48
Certificate 17066 – Reichel Pugh Z-86 – Oakcliff OC86- 2022 base -114
Certificate 16914 – X50 – Odyssey – 2022 base 6
Certificate 16480 – Eggemoggin47+ – Tink 2022 Base 30

7. Old Business:

1. 1. No new modifications to the new web page were identified.
   2. Will Museler updated the group on the changes that the Ida Lewis Distance Race is proposing to make for 2023 in an attempt to make the racing tighter and the finishers complete the courses in close proximity by class. The ORC vs PHRF certificate selection by boat is being looked at to see if a ORC certificate holder could be requested to only race under ORC. More to come.

8. New Business:

1. Annual Meeting – It was agreed that the annual meeting will be held in person on Wednesday, January 26 at the Bristol Yacht Club, Kathy Rotsky to confirm with BYC.

9. Adjournment: 8:47pm

PHRF-NB
Minutes
October 2022

Date:            Wednesday, October 19, 2022

                    Gulfstream Bar & Grille, 1 Lagoon Rd, Portsmouth

Time:           1830

Location:     Zoom

1. Call to Order: 7:00pm
2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Todd Johnston, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member, Matt Smith, committee member Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator
3. Approval Meeting Minutes: Minutes of September 26, 2022 meeting approved by members present.
4.  Appeals:
   1. None
5.  Ratings:
   1. None
6. Ratings Review: The members present agreed that the following boats should be reviewed to insure that the rating assigned is as accurate as possible based on 2022 race results and other input as appropriate

1. Old Business:
   1. None

VIII       New Business:

1. a) Will Museler is a consultant to the Ida Lewis YC and will be providing analysis of and for the 24 hour race in 2023
2. b) US Sailing continues to be unresponsive to our inquiries and attempts to interface concerning PHRF
3. c) Membership is slightly down for the year 2022
4. d) Members present agreed that the $50.00 annual certificate fee should continue.
5. e) The option of investing in VPP software was presented to the members present and voted to look at    the benefit and cost of software.
6. f) Meeting November 28th – members present voted to meet via Zoom

IX      Adjournment: 8:45pm

PHRF-NB Minutes September 2022

Date:          Monday, September 26, 2022

Time:         1830

Location:   Zoom

1. Call to Order: 6:35pm

1. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Bob Horton, Secretary;  Ken Madeiro, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Vin McAteer, committee member; Matt Smith, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: August 2022 minutes approved by the members present

1. Appeals:
2. a) None

1. Ratings:
2. a) None

1. Ratings Review: Commodore Kern asked that a list of boats that were given 2022 Provisional Ratings or that have observed performance that calls into question their current PHRF-NB rating be submitted for review at the October meeting.

VII.        Old Business:

1. A) None

viii.     New Business: The East Greenwich YC is proposing to offer a seminar similar to the 2022    Racing on the Bay seminar that they held. Vin McAteer was looking for thoughts from the         PHRF-NB committee on the viability and interest for such a repeat seminar. Members   present including Will Museler who was a presenter at the 2022 event believed it is valuable         and should be repeated.

           Next meeting will be October 19 at Gulfstream restaurant in Portsmouth – more info to          follow

VIII.        Adjournment: 7:35pm

PHRF-NB Minutes August 2022

Date:          Monday, August 29, 2022

Time:         1830

Location:   Zoom

1. Call to Order: 6:30pm

1. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Ec Helme, committee member; committee member;  Ken Madeiro, committee member; Matt Smith, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: July 2022 minutes approved by the members present

1. Appeals:
2. a)      None
3. b)    2022 Certificate #16954 – Mills 41, Final Final, Jon Desmond, owner
4. Ratings:
5. a)      2022 Certificate #16990 – McCurdy and Rhodes 48, Carina, Rives Potts, owner. Clarification on details draft and ‘J’, received, a provisional rating of 57 was assigned.
6. b)      2022Certificate #17008 – Baltic 56-03, Runaway Bunny. Ben Mackay, owner. The spinnaker measurements requested have been received and accounted for. A provisional rating of -30 was assigned.
7. Ratings Review:
8. a)      2022 Certificate #16909 – Swan 48-2- Dragon, Hugh Balloch owner.  Awaiting an update by Matt Smith of the review of the information provided by Hugh Balloch to determine if any action should be taken regarding a rating adjustment. Matt Smith provided that the spar would be lighter but that the furling gear would add weight. The 1 ft. taller mast would not be significant. The headsail and the mainsail maintain the same dimensions. The furler for the A-sail is a top down. The members present agreed on a -3 second adjustment for the carbon rig instead of the normal 6 second adjustment due to the internal roller furler. Base rating assigned is 39

VII.        Old Business:

1. a)    Communication with 6 Square on finalization on contract of update to PHRF-NB website.
2. i)             Have we ensured that the payment for certificate(s) occurs after filling out of the application(s) and that all the required data is present to make a rating before it can be acted upon by the committee?  –  What are the required blanks to be filled out? What additional drop downs do we want, a $100.00 fee for expedited processing.

viii.     New Business:

1. a)      A Luders 24 Certificate 16428, Nan Hall owner, has been racing with a non-declared spinnaker not reflected on their certificate. Committee recommended that the Race Committee Chairman at BYC be notified.
2. b)      Meeting September 26th – An in person dinner meeting was voted by members present for September. Kathy Rotsky to find a location and query members.

VIII.        Adjournment: 7:35pm

PHRF-NBMinutesJuly 25, 2022

Date:          Monday, July 25, 2022

Time:         1830

Location:   Zoom

1. Call to Order: 1830

1. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member; Kathy Rotsky PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: Minutes of June 2022 minutes approved by members present

1. Appeals:
2. a)      C&C 30 Randy Shore provided an excellent overview of the EOS program which is in memory of Edward Oliver Sanchez who has passed away and it is intended to promote youth sailing. Kings Point and Sail Newport are both supporting the program in various ways and degrees. Currently there are 3 C&C 30’s in the EOS program and 2 other C&C 30s that race in the same group/class. The documentation that was submitted for the rating appeal was reviewed and various questions asked by the members present were answered by Randy Shore. After a 45 minute review is was agreed by a majority of the members present to adjust the C&C rating by 6 seconds for a new base of 48.
3. Ratings:
4. a)      2022 Certificate #16954 – Mills 41, Final Final, Jon Desmond, owner. A long discussion regarding what model Mills 41 this really was and if the boat had been known by any other name at some previous time resulted in the data provided by the owner being used to determine a provisional base rating of -30 by the members present.
5. b)      2022 Certificate #16967 – Shannon 50 Staysail Ketch, Besa, John Fuller, owner. PHRF-NE has this model at a 114 base. A review of the boat as described in the certificate resulted in the members present voting to assign a provisional base rating of 120
6. c)      2022 Certificate #16990 – McCurdy and Rhodes 48, Carina, Rives Potts, owner. The certificated was thought to be in need of clarification on certain details such as Draft and J measurements. LI Sound has a rating and ORC lists the boat as rating equivalent 50 while IRC rates it equivalent 62. Kathy Rotsky will contact the owner for clarification on our questions so that a base rating can be assigned. Members present agreed to this action.
7. d)      2022 Certificate #16992 – Pogo 36, Liberty, Richard Fleischman, owner. A thorough review of the details of this boat included viewing pictures of the same model on line and comparing it to a Farr 40 fractional rig which currently rates 8. The boat carries a quarehead main and the hounds have been increased by 3 feet.  Of 2 existing boats that carry ORC certificates, 1 is a masthead and the other fractional. It was decided that due to the hounds being moved 3 feet that PHRF-NB would designate this boat as a masthead. The boat has a lifting keel that would not appear to be used while racing. After a thorough review it was agreed by the members present to assign a provisional rating of 6.
8. e)      2022 Certificate #17002 – Hallberg Rassy 44, Callisto, Deric Hetzel, owner. This boat has non-overlapping headsails and a masthead kite. It carries a Code 0 that will have a -7 adjustment to the base rating. This model boat falls into comparisons with boats that have a range of 66 to 115. It compares favorably to Sense 60 which rates 66 spinnaker and it was also compared to a J109 which rates72. It is registered to race in the Solo Twin. The members present agreed to a provisional base rating of 72.
9. f)       2022 Certificate #17008 – Baltic 56-03, Runaway Bunny, Ben Mackay, owner. This boat has non-overlapping headsails and compares to various known boats such as White Rhino a Swan 56 rating -26, Irie -57, Preval -46, Pugilist a Martin 49 at -39, No spinnaker measurements were provided so the certificate will not be issued until those are received. The members present agreed to a provisional rating of -30 that will be assigned once the spinnaker measurements are and taken into account to assign the sailing ratings.
10. g)      2022 Certificate #17014 – Italia98, Christopher Dragon XII, Andrew Weiss, owner. These models have been doing very well in Europe over the past few years. The model won Key West and placed 1st in class in Bermuda. An ORC of 590 converts to 40 in PHRF. The boat was compared to a Taylor 41 rating 52 and it could also compare to an IMX40 or XP 38 or a J122. It was noted that the E measurement is off and may be 17.55 not 11.48 as owner listed. This will be confirmed by Kathy Rotsky. The members present agreed t a provisional rating of 45.
11. Ratings Review:
12. a)      2022 Certificate #16909 – Swan 48-2- Dragon.  There was no update by Matt Smith of the review of the information provided by Hugh Balloch to determine if any action should be taken regarding a rating adjustment.

VII.        Old Business:

1. a)      Communication with 6 Square on finalization on contract of update to PHRF-NB website. Progress is being made on the move to 6 Square and dates for testing are being finalized.

VIII.     New Business:

There was feedback from various sources that the 2022 rating on certificate #16480, Tink an            Eggamoggin 47 of 60 was favorable based on the 8 race performance at the NYYC Regatta. A review       by the committee on this boats performance lead to a decision that a more realistic and accurate rating       would be a base of 36 and with adjustment sailing at 32. It was obvious to the committee that an adjustment should be made. It was agreed that a special meeting would be called after the owner of          Tink was notified that a change was being considered. Will Museler would be notifying the owner            that we reviewed his performance to our initial rating and felt justified in making and adjustment.

Subsequent to this meeting and Will Museler’s call to the owner, the owner had no objection to a      rating change ot a new base of 36.

Meeting August 29th – Zoom

VIII.        Adjournment: 2124

PHRF-NBMINUTESJune 27, 2022

Date:            Monday, June 27, 2022

Time:           1830

Location:     Zoom

1. Call to Order:6:42pm

1. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore: Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Ec Helme, Committee Member; Vin McAteer, Committee Member;  Randy Shore, Committee Member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: May 2022, Clarification needed:

Boats that carry no spinnaker, should they be receiving a spinnaker rating – it was agreed by the members present that the standard measurements would be plugged in if no measurements are supplied even if the owner states no spinnaker on board.

Notes from the May meeting were read and the members present agreed with the wording as written.

1. Appeals:

It was mention by Randy Shore that a ratings appeal for the C&C 30’s should have been received. Research by Roy Guay and Kathy Rotsky identified a problem within the system that did not alert them to the appeal even though the required fee had been paid. The appeal will be presented to the members for review at the July meeting.

1. Ratings:
2. a)       2022 Certificate #16799 – Borrensen BB-10, Snow Petrel, George Wilson Lovett owner. This boat compares similarly to an Abbot 33 which Will Museler believes sails to its rating while Vin McAteer believes the Abbott has a soft rating of 126. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 129.
3. b)      2022 Certificate #16890 – Grand Soleil 42 LC, Mango, Roger Shepley owner. This boat was compared to a J46 and J133. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 48.
4. c)       2022 Certificate #16905 – CTM 41, After Midnight, Paul Jeka, owner. The members present discussed whether this was actually a boat named High Noon. After review it was determined that this was a different boat based on sail numbers and ORC as well as IRC data. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of -18 after rig information is received that compares to known data..
5. d)      2022 Certificate #16929 – JPK 45, Take Two, Gordon Fletcher, owner. This boat was compared to a J46 at base 39 and a Beneteau 37.7 with various ratings between 24 and 30. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 54 if ISP is provided that allows the calculation of all factors..
6. e)       2022 Certificate #16931 – Eight Meter, Angelita, Samuel Croll, owner. This is a classic wooden boat with a traditional underbody Regression shows a 96 rating, CT-PHRF has one at 111 an old PHRF-NB rating was 159 which members agreed was way off. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 111 which puts it in the same range as a J29.

VI         Ratings Review:

1. a)       2022 Certificate #16909 – Swan 48-2- Dragon, Email attached below.  Hugh Balloch requested a review post modification to his boat.  Matt Smith will be asked to review the information provided to determine if any action should be taken regarding a rating adjustment

VII        Old Business:

1. a)    Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing. There has been no response to the inquiries that Will Museler or Roy Guay has submitted.
2. b)    Changes and updates to PHRF-NB website.
3. i)        Roy Guay has not received any response from Erik about feasibility and cost
4. ii)      A proposal from 6 Square to provide web services was received and reviewed 6 Square is based in Newport and provides services to the Newport YC. Newport YC is satisfied with the service and product provided to them by 6 Square. It was voted and approved by the members present to move forward to hire 6 Square to develop a new website and convert our existing website data.

VIII      New Business:

1. a)      Meeting July 25th – Zoom

Adjournment: 8:30pm

Email from Hugh Balloch regarding Swan 48-2, Dragon

I am writing to give the background to the recently submitted rating renewal for our Swan 48 Dragon.

As we are aging less gracefully than our Swan, we have decided to refit the boat with a cruising oriented rig from Offshore Spars. The mast and electric furling boom is fabricated from carbon. The standing rigging remains stainless rod rigging. A slight change from the original Swan specifications the mast height was increased slightly to create a 15/16ths rig with the mainsail hoist about a foot above the headstay attachment. This facilitates top down furling and snuffing of the spinnakers without hanging up on the headstay furling mechanism. No change was made to any of the headsails or spinnakers we use. The old main had a small panel added to the bottom and the luff curve cut out to accommodate the furler and mast luff tape feeder. The new P and ISP numbers provided by our naval architect advisor Jason Black (copied on this email) have been submitted with our renewal form.

While the mast is carbon and therefore somewhat lighter, the new carbon boom is substantially heavier than the aluminum one it replaces as it has a separate mandrel that rolls down the sail and several electrical components to operate the roller mechanism. The mainsail is no longer adjustable along the foot other than by starting to roll in a kind of “flattener” reef.

Additional changes were made to increase cruising comfort and spousal happiness including two electric heads replacing old Blake manual ones. An upgraded Harken 46 electric mainsheet winch that has a reverse function, replaces the electric Lewmar 54. All new B&G 5000 series instruments and Simrad autopilot uses the same hydraulic ram and motor so I doubt there is any weight change associated with that; but our SSB has been removed.

If there is any additional information the Committee would like, please feel free to reach out to me or Jason and we will provide what we can.

Regards
Hugh Balloch

PHRF-NBMeeting MinutesMay 2022

Date:          Monday, May 23, 2022

Location:   Zoom

1. Call to Order: 6:30pm

1. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, rating chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, secretary; Ec Helme, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member, Vin McAteer, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member; Matt Smith, , committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: The minutes from the April 25, 2022 meeting were voted and seconded by the members present to be accepted as distributed unanimously.

1. Appeals:
2. a)    2022 Certificate #16390 – Mutinous Dog, Tartan Ten, Marc Holdaway. Mr Holoway contends that the rating of his Tartan Ten should be identical to the Tartan Ten Lorax. The difference between the two ratings is that Lora has received a credit for using a headsail smaller than 155%. Extensive review of other PHRF area found that most T10’s race with larger head sails and only the Great Lakes are had a T10 One Design fleet that rated the boats as 126. After a lengthy discussion it was agreed that Mutinous Dog should have received a credit to its rating for having a smaller headsail. Mr Holdaway entered the meeting and was informed that his rating would receive a credit of 9 sec for the smaller sail and that due to the action of the committee his appeal fee would be refunded.
3. b)    2022 Certificate 16326 – Hawksbill, Beneteau First 27SE, David Wilson, appealed his rating based on his assumption that the Beneteau 1st 27 is the same boat as a Seascape 27 that was produced since 2011.  The committee compared the newer Beneteau First 27SE to other PHRF areas various boats racing on Narragansett Bay ORC rates the Seascape differently than the First 27SE with the Seascape rated slower. After discussing the comparable boats it was agreed by the members present that a provisional base rating of 90 would be assigned for the 2022 season. Rating Chairman Will Museler will notify Mr. Wilson of the provisional base rating and our reasoning.

1. Ratings:
2. a)       2022 Certificate #16763 – Marten 49, Pugilist, Dudley Johnson, owner. This is was formerly AKA Summer Storm. The rating of -45 was in effect previously. Members present agreed that the rating should remain at -45.
3. b)      2022 Certificate #16429 & 16885 – Sabre Spirit 36 WK, Erocia, Robert Green, owner. It was noted that as designed the boat comes with a below deck roller furler and a self-tacking jib. Regression formula reflects 109, Members present agreed that the provisional rating should be 117
4. c)       2022 Certificate #16745 – Botin 55, Outlier, Harvey Jones, owner, email attached to the minutes. Members present agreed that this should be presented by the owner as an appeal of the rating.
5. d)      2022 Certificate #16747 – 12 Meter, Columbia US16, Kevin Hegarty, owner. Agreed by the members present that we would follow the precedent set by the 12 Meter Association that has PHRF ratings of Traditional -33, Classic -30, Modern, and Grand Prix
6. e)       2022 Certificate #16708 – International 110, Pelican, Steve Clark, questioned the base rating. The members present agreed that this model with 1 trapeze and a 180% headsail should be rated at a base of 174.

1. Ratings Review:
2. a)       2022 Certificate #16335 – Freedom 30 SD, Serendipity, Gary Venable owner. Email attached at the bottom of the minutes. Members present agreed to leave the 2022 base rating as is at 202.

VII.        Old Business:

1. a)    Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing. – No update.
2. b)    12 Meter update – this was addressed in the open ratings section
3. c)    Changes and updates to PHRF-NB website.
4. i)           Roy’s talk to Erik about feasibility and cost
5. ii)         Others contact with potential webmasters

VIII.        New Business:

1. a)      Meeting June 27th – Zoom
2. a)         Boats that carry no spinnaker, should they be receiving a spinnaker rating.  It was agreed by the members present that the standard measurements would be plugged in if no measurements are supplied even if the owner states no spinnaker on board.

1. Adjournment:

From Gary Venabal dated 5/10

I was hoping to have this resolved before the first race…. Which is tonight (JYC)…I have forwarded my PHRF (to JYC) showing a rating of 199….. Last night I reviewed the PHRF notes of February which indicated the committee was looking into the ratings for the various NONSUCH’s…. there was no mention of the Freedoms.   After further investigation I have the following observations:

–           Over the last several years there have been only 8 Freedoms that had a PHRF rating ….. 4 of them had it for one year… one for 2 years (Hoyt designed 32)  Pedrick and Koch have raced their Freedom 35’s for more years than I raced my 30…. And now Koch has decided to race another boat this year…. Which leaves only Dave Pedrick and myself racing Freedoms.

–          Dave Pedrick has raced the boat that he designed ….The Pedrick Freedom 35 was offered with traditional Freedom Club Foot jib (like my Gary Mull designed 30SD) or roller furling which is what he has.

–          Of the three Mull designed Freedoms that are listed in the rating history …. Claus has 30 with standard keel and was rated 205 …he raced one year 2017

Collins has Freedom 32 (same boat as Claus but with a swim platform) his rating in 2019 was 206…. And Caspersen who registered a 32SD and received a 207 rating 2018…. None of these boats raced again.

–          There is only one NONSUCH  registered this year “Encore” which has a base rating of 240 and a non-spin rating of 248.

–          STAR DANCER….Dave Pedrick’s boat has a spin rating of 132 and a non-spin rating of 142….

–          There are 165 registered boats in PHRF-NB (some twice ..J-109s r) all but two boats have a spin credit …. SERENDIPITY and a Marshall Sanderling (Catboat)..which carries a rating of 321.

Given all the above I fail to understand why our rating was dinged for 12 secs a mile.

I appreciate all that you do and fully understand how difficult it must be to “get it right”.   We have been somewhat successful but I believe that  is because we have learned the boat over the years, it is well prepped, I have two crew members that have extensive sailing and racing experience.

I had thought that once the facts were presented …. That Serendipity is in fact a sloop, capable of carrying a spinnaker and not a NONSUCH, this would be easily corrected.

Please let me know if I need to file an appeal…. But nothing has changed on the boat for the last seven years so I hope I needn’t

From Harvey Jones/Botin 55, Outlier

 Kathy,

I just submitted the renewal for OUTLIER’s PHRF-NB certificate in preparation for the NYYC Annual Regatta in June. I didn’t see a place to add notes to the renewal application so I am submitting this email for that purpose.

OUTLIER’s original PHRF-NB certificate was issued in 2019, the year the boat was built, prior to any racing and with little information about her performance. The PHRF-NB Committee did the best job they could, given what they had to work with, rating the boat. Now we have 3 years of experience racing under CRF and PHRF-NE and OUTLIER’s performance can be compared to other boats. I hope the Committee will take a new look.

After the first season, PHRF-NE modified OUTLIER’s rating from -48/-39 to -39/-30. Further a good boat to compare to OUTLIER is Irie-2. They share many of the same dimensions with the major difference being weight. Irie-2 is a carbon boat with no interior to speak of, while OUTLIER is a wooden boat with a full wood interior. OUTLIER weighs twice as much as Irie-2. I realize PHRF-NE and PHRF-NB are different but boat-to-boat comparisons are legitimate. In PHRF-NE Irie-2 is rated -69/-60 thus there is a 30 second/mile difference to OUTLIER’s -39/-30 PHRF-NE rating. Given the 9 second adjustment PHRF-NE made to OUTLIER’s rating from -48/-39 to -39/-30 and the 30 second PHRF-NE spread between Irie-2 and OUTLIER, I would respectfully request the PHRF-NB consider a similar adjustment to OUTLIER’s 2022 PHRF-NB rating.

I would appreciate it if you would share this email with whoever is involved in formulating the rating.

Thank you,

Harvey Jones

PHRF-NB

Minutes

February 2022

Date:  Monday, Feb. 28, 2022

Time:  1830

Location: Zoom

I. Call to Order: 6:34pm

II. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay,Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Todd Johnston, Committee member; Ken Madeiro, Committee member; Vin McAteer, Committee member; Mark Nannini, Committee member; Randy Shore, Committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

a) Vote on Approval of new Committee member: Motion made and seconded to approve E.C. Helme as a PHRF-NB Committee member. Those present voted unanimously to approve the recommendation to add EC Helme as a committee member.

III. Approval Meeting Minutes: November 2021. Motion made and seconded to approve the November minute. Members present voted to approve the minutes

IV. Review Draft of 2022 Annual Meeting. Members present stated that review found no changes to the draft minutes

V. Appeals:  None

VI. Ratings: Review Request:

a) Steve Clark – asked for a rating on his International 110, Portsmouth Yardstick, PHRF-NB example: Good Foot. The members present accepted the recommendation from the Rating Chairman to ask Steve Clarke to submit a rating certificate with supporting documents.

VII. Ratings Review:  It was agreed by the members present to table the review of rating for the listed boats until more data is obtained. Will Museler has sent a letter to ESCA and Detroit PHRF asking for any data they have on the Nonsuch boats.

a) Alerion 28:  US Sailing fleet, PHRF-NB example: Little Zilla  Weight question is key.

b) Nonsuch 30

c) Nonsuch 33

d) Nonsuch 36

VIII. Old

a) Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing; Will to update.

b) Changes and updates to PHRF-NB website – members input is the concern about the flexibility of the existing system. Also the commitment that Erik can put into our requests as this is not primary focus. It was suggested that we begin a search for a new webmaster.

i) Roy’s talk to Erik about feasibility and cost

ii) PDF print of cert works is now working

iii) Add Graduated costs: $50 new Cert, $25 Change to Cert, $100 new Cert or Change within 5 days of requirement. These costs are all handled manually by Kathy Rotsky as they occur and need to be clearly stated.

iv) Implement drop down for boat model/type. This change will be requested.

v) Rename drop down “Rating Rules” to “Rules & Instruction”, New sub-drops “Rating Rules”, “Appeals” add Appeal Guidance, “Principles of PHRF-NB” and “Instructions & Guides” (attachment below)

IX. New Business:

a) Proposed new members for Committee: Ben Hall and Henry Little. Kathy Rotsky is working to clarify their interest in joining PHRF-NB

b) Communication from Jay Tyson at ORA regarding ORREZ. – ORA1, Perf Lite has been dropped. Gulf Yachting is no longer participating in the test and has moved to ORREZ. Will Museler spoke with Jay and was asked if info on results that they could shadow. Twenty Hundred Club will accomodate

c) Review of “New Base/Changes to Base Rating Procedure” (2017)

d) Meeting March 28th – will Zoom

e) Bob Horton will provide the list of provisional ratings issued in 2021 and 2021 rating appeals for review.

X. Adjournment: 8:15pm

APPEAL GUIDANCE

The handicap appeal process has two levels of appeal. The first level of an appeal is to the PHRF-NB Rating Committee, the second level is to US SAILING.  Please note that the PHRF-NB Rating Committee may table, or reject, an appeal if it feels insufficient information is presented.  Also, the Committee may refer any appeal directly US Sailing Race Administration Director.  PHRF-NB appeal process is outlined below, but may be modified by the Rating Committee Chairman at his discretion.

Appealing of a yacht’s rating by owner

Any member of PHRF-NB may appeal the rating of his/her own yacht by electronic submission, to the Rating Committee at PHRF-NB Admin <PHRFAdmin@phrf-nb.org> and filling out the two page Appeal Form found at <https://www.phrf-nb.org/sites/default/files/AppealForm_0.xls> The appeal will be acted upon within forty-five days of receipt.

The owner of the yacht shall be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing.  The hearing will take place at time and location designated and presided over by the Chairperson of the PHRF-NB Rating Committee.  It is preferred that the meeting take place in-person, but may be conducted by electronic means if the Chairperson deems that to be necessary.

During the hearing, the owner (or his representative) will present their position.  The Rating Committee members will then ask questions of the applicant.  Upon conclusion of the question period, the owner will be asked to withdraw from the hearing.  The Rating Committee will continue with the hearing meeting to resolve the appeal and proceed to a decision.  Within seven days, the owner will be notified of the decision and all rationale of the Rating Committee, by e-mail.  No further communications regarding the appeal will be acknowledged for one year from the date of the decision.

Appeal of Another Yacht’s Rating

At least two members of PHRF-NB may appeal the rating of Another Yacht’s Rating by electronic submission, to the Rating Committee at PHRF-NB Admin <PHRFAdmin@phrf-nb.org> and filling out the two page Appeal Form found at <https://www.phrf-nb.org/sites/default/files/AppealForm_0.xls>..  Upon receipt of the appeal of another yacht’s rating, copies of all documents relevant to the appeal will be sent to the Rating Committee members and a hearing will be scheduled within forty-five (45) days.  The owner of the protested yacht be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing and provided a written summary of the facts presented in the appeal.  The hearing will take place at time and location designated and presided over by the Chairperson of the PHRF-NB Rating Committee.  The parties to the appeal will so be notified.  It is preferred that the hearing take place in-person, but may be conducted by electronic means if the Chairperson deems that to be necessary.

During the hearing, the appellants designated spokesperson will be asked to present their position and the owner of the protested yacht will present their position.  In the same order, the parties to the appeal will be allowed no more than a ten-minute rebuttal. The Rating Committee members will then question both parties to the appeal.  When this portion of the hearing concludes, the Chairperson will then dismiss both parties to the appeal.

After this dismissal and the departure of the parties to the appeal, the Rating Committee will continue to meet to resolve the appeal and shall proceed to a decision.  The Committee decision and all rationale will be returned, by e-mail to the appellants and the owner of the protested yacht within seven (7) days of the hearing.  No further communications regarding the appeal will be acknowledged for one (1) year from the date of the decision.

Appeals to US SAILING

After the appeal processes described above, an appeal of PHRF-NB Rating Committee decision can be forwarded to the US Sailing Race Administration Director for resolution.

PHRF-NB Annual Meeting Minutes January 2022

Date: January 26, 2022
Attendees: PHRF-NB Board and Committee as well as PHRF-NB members and stand-ins
Time: 1830
Location: Zoom Meeting

1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call – Don Kern, Commodore Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Todd Johnston, Moose McClintock, Ken Madeiro, Vin McAteer, Kathy Rotsky PHRF-NB Administrator

PHRF Members in attendance; EC Helm, Nick Bowen, Bill Kneller, Mark Rotsky, Skip Mattos, Jonathan Nye, Chadwick Dickson, Nick Brachet, Paul Grimes, AB K Kaebel Representing Tim Grimes, Tripp Alyn representing Coasters Harbor

III. Approval of 2021 Annual Meeting Minutes. Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the 2021 Annual Meeting minutes

1. Treasurers Report – Roy Guay Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the annual treasurers report.
2. Nomination of Officers

Officers nominated with committee approval.

1. a) Commodore – Don Kern
2. b) Rating Chairman – Will Museler
3. c) Treasurer – Roy Guay
4. d) Secretary – Bob Horton

Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the slate of 2022 officers.

1. Proposed Changes for 2022 Season
2. a) Revision and updating of PRINCIPLES OF PHRF OF NARRAGANSETT BAY

Both Redline changes and changes implemented versions.

Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the updated version of the principles.

1. b) Updating of PHRF-NB REGULATIONS; Definitions alignment and order of appearance as found in certificate application. Both Redline changes and changes implemented versions.

Commodore Kern submitted an oral change that would be reflected in the class/model of a boat that would place a – (dash)in the description: Example C&C 34 – MK3

Bill Kneller asked if the model of a boat could appear as a dropdown. Roy Guay, Don Kern and Will Museler agree that this is a good idea but with the potential for upgrading or converting the existing platform it is best to but this on the future enhancements list.

VII. New Business – There was no new business submitted by those in attendance.

VIII. Open Discussion and Questions – the topic of support for PHRF by US Sailing was brought forth. Based on the Meeting at the Conanicut YC it was noted that the Olympics are a focus for US Sailing along with inclusivity and training. There was no mention of PHRF until the question portion of the meeting at which time the US Sailing speakers verbally stated that US Sailing fully supports PHRF and its mission. It was noted that there has been significant personnel turnover at PHRF and there may be financial issues as well.

Commodore Kern spoke with Jim Teeters in November regarding support for PHRF from US Sailing and has not heard back.

Bill Kneller also mentioned the turnover as a contributing issue at US Sailing

Alex Kaebel indicated that he felt PHRF-NB was doing a good job and was a well-run organization. He also stated that he understood US Sailing was undergoing personnel changes.

The question of when 2022 registrations would be available was addressed by Roy Guay who stated March was the target date.

1. Adjournment – no further questions prompted a motion to adjourned which was seconded and approved.