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29 November, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes of November 2021 Meeting

Date:            Monday, Nov 29, 2021

Location:      Zoom

  1. Call to Order: 6:45pm
  2. Roll Call: Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Grimes, Committee Member, Todd Johnston, Committee Member; Ken Madeiro, Committee Member; Kathy Rotsky, Administrator

III.            Approval Meeting Minutes: Motion made and seconded to accept and approve the minutes of the September 27, 2021 meeting. Members present voted in favor.

  1. Ratings Review Request:
  2. a)   Graves, Mike Zani;  Structural Furlers – Roller Furling Credit, A request was sent to the committee to allow a credit of 3 seconds for structural roller furlers. Members present voted to deny Mike Zani’s request with Bob Horton abstaining. The current rule is intended to encourage cruisers to race not provide a credit to boats set up for racing.
  3. Provisional Ratings Review:
  4. a)        Gleam, 12 meter – PHRF-NB will wait for the class response before establishing PHRF ratings on 12 meter boats
  5. b)        Certificate 16004 – Red Herring, Goetz Custom, Dave Hubbard owner, current base rating is 10. Will few 2021 race results members present agreed to leave the base rating at 10.
  6. c)         Certificate 13477 – Luna, Friendship 75, Joe Cleverdon owner. Base rating is -12. As the rating has previously been adjusted the members present agreed that there should not be any change
  7. d)        Discussion regarding the C&C 30 sport boats will be carried over to the next meeting.
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  9. a)             Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing;  Will update, that in speaking with US Sailing they have promised to work on the PHRF side of US Sailing.
  10. b)             Final review of proposed changes to:
  11. i)           Rules for 2022 and change summary, Attachment A  – review of changes and corrections made.
  12. ii)          Principles of Narragansett Bay PHRF, Attachment B – reviewed by members present.

iii)         Roller Furling & Cruising Headsail Credits Explained, Attachment C – reviewed by members present

  1. iv)         Rig Measurements and Definitions – reviewed by members present

VII.            New Business:

  1. a)        Annual Meeting: January 25 (Tue) 2022 – Zoom and/or Bristol YC.

VIII.            Adjournment: 8:10pm

25 October, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes October 25

Date:    Monday, October 25, 2021

Location:  Zoom

  1. Call to Order:1837
  2. Roll Call: Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore;  Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasure; Paul Grimes, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member; Vin McAteer, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, administrator

        III.     Approval Meeting Minutes: September 27, 2021 approved with 1 change

  1. Appeals: None
  2. Ratings Review:
  3. Provisional:
  4. Certificate 15987 – Celeritas,  Figaro 3  – members present agreed that not enough race results exist to determine if the provisional rating of 48 should be adjusted. Carried over to 2022.
  5. Certificate 16221- Christopher Dragon, Ker 40 – IRC has this boat at -39, NE at -39 NB at -36,                              members present agreed to leave the -36 as provisional.
  6. Certificate  15464 – Dancing Bear III, Alden 50 CC’ – the furling in mast mainsail is not in the                           provisional base but treated as an adjustment, members present agreed to leave the provisional                           rating as 102.
  7. Certificate 15957 – Gleam, 12 meter – members present agreed to accept the rating of the Class                           Association.
  8. Certificate 16001 – Messing About, Beneteau 46 – YRALIS has the boat at 78 NB has the boat at                           86, members present agreed to leave the rating at 86.
  9. Boats with Δ > ± 9, 2021 certs found in Attachment A:
  10. Certificate 15813 – Little Zilla, ALERION EXPRESS 28 ODR – NE has this model at 158, NB has                           at 148 members present agreed that further review of our rating should be initiated.
  11. Certificate 15985 – Masquerade, BALTIC 47 – NE rates these boats at 12 ORC Club converts to                           33, members present agreed to leave as 33.
  12. Certificate  15989 – Frolic, Navy 44 – this boat is a yawl NE has at 90, NB has at 78, members                           present agreed that further review of our rating should be initiated.
  13. Certificate  15895 – Bizzy Ball, NONSUCH 30 – ORC Club at 700 converts to 150, NE has these at                       177, NB rates as 207, Ct has a large group and rates them at 189, members present agreed that                           more information from CT should be requested to make a final decision.
  14. Certificate  15562 – Windswept, PEARSON 33 – ORC club of 702, NE has these at 177, eastern CT                     at 180, NB rates them at 189, members present agreed to leave the rating at 189
  15. Certificate 15771 – Chairman Arafat, PEARSON ELECTRA – members present agreed to leave the                     current rating in place.
  16. Certificate  15445 – Adelina, PEARSON ENSIGN – NE rates these at 270, CT at 267, NB at 255,                           members present agreed to leave the current rating in place.
  17. Certificate  15606 – Hey 19, RHODES 19 – members present agreed to leave the current rating in                           place.
  18. Certificate  15936 – IMPISH, SWAN 371 – NE rates these at 114, NB rates at 126 members present               agreed to leave the current rating in place.
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  20. a)               Communication with US Sailing. Tentative agenda to US Sailing; Will to update. Will reported that no progress has been made with communications with US Sailing.
  21. b)              Proposed changes to the rules for 2022 update from Sept discussion. Attachment B

Under 4. Definitions it was agreed by members present to remove any reference under P & E of measurements if no black band exists.

A discussion of measurements of SPL clarified how the measurement should be taken.

Under 5.1 the designation and term ODR will be eliminated. A review of any boat with such designation will be performed and notifications will be sent out to certificate holders.

Under 6.2 D it was discussed that if a boat applied for a cruising headsail credit no other certificate would be issued. Also under this topic if a boat with a cruising headsail credit raced out of the PHRF-NB area they could use any other areas rating certificated issued for that boat.

A subset of this discussion was if a rating change for a different size headsail was received should a new certificated be required or a change to the existing certificate?

Under 6.4 the definition was agreed to be deleted as it was a duplicate of a previous definition.

Under 8.1 A discussion of requiring any new headsail to be reported ended without a clear decision. Also discussed was the fact that we do not make mention of power winches being subject to a rating adjustment. It was agreed to not address this topic.

  1. c)               Proposed changes to Guide for Yacht Clubs & Race Committees for 2022, Attachment C – This is mostly a complete rewrite.
  2. d)              Add Graduated costs: $50 new Cert, $25 Change to Cert, $100 new Cert or Change within 10 days of requirement. It was agreed by the members present that the 10 day requirement should be 5 days as reflected in the change of the September minutes

       VII.    New Business:

        Revised” Principles of Narragansett Bay PHRF” Attachment D a change noted was to Article IV 4.3.7          removing the last sentence.

        4.3.7 Each member of the Rating Committee shall have one (1) vote. However, no member may vote, nor be         present for the vote, on the rating of a yacht(s), or any rating adjustments thereto, which directly affects the         rating of any yacht(s) upon which the member regularly sails. To the extent that members may vote on the         adjustment(s) or ratings(s) of those yachts(s) in the same class as the yacht(s) upon which the member         regularly sails.

Also a change noted was to Article V 5.1.5

5.1.5 All appeals shall be acted upon within fourteen (14) forty –five (45) days of receipt, unless no prejudice shall result from a delay thereof.

5.2.5 Was left as is

The Committee decision and all rationale thereof, shall be returned, in writing, to the appellant within seven (7) days of the hearing

  1. a)                   Roy asked members to submit any changes to the website to him so that he can talk to Erik about                            feasibility and cost.
  2. b)                   Date and place for the annual meeting needs to be decided in November.
  3. c)                   Meeting Nov 29 – Zoom and/or place

     VIII.    Adjournment:

 

Attachment A

Attachment B  Proposed changes to the rules for 2022

  1.      Definitions (In order as they appear in Certificate’s Application)

P                                           Mainsail luff length from the top of the boom to the bottom of the upper mast band .  If no band, to the top of the main halyard sheave.

E                                           Foot length of the sail from the aft face of the mast to inboard edge of the band boom, if no band, to the clew in its most outboard position.

SPL                                        Spinnaker/whisker pole length is measured from the center line of  the mast (fore side) to the extreme outboard end of the fitting, with the spinnaker/whisker pole in its mast fitting and set in a horizontal, athwart-ship position.

Py/P2                                                Mizzen luff length …

Ey/E2                                               Mizzen foot length …

Max Draft                             Maximum depth …

Other Ballast                        Note any additional ballast with amount and location, such as bilge ballast or corrector weights. If Port & Stb’d water ballast , total gallons on one side.

Reaching Headsails  (Flying Headsails)

                                             A headsail that is not attached to the headstay and spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length.

Propeller Installation      How the propeller installed, aperture, exposed shaft, sail drive, thru keel, and drop box. shaft/strut, etc

Note:  “Aperture” is where the propeller is located in a faired opening between full keel and attached rudder

“Thru Keel” is where the propeller shaft exits from the trailing edge of the keel.

5.1.            PHRF-NB considers the base boat to be as follows:

  1. ODR (One Design Rating) – This Base Rating will take into account standard rig measurements (I, J, P, E), sail sizes/areas, Displacement and crew requirements as defined in the Class Rules.  An ODR Base rating shall remain in place as long as there is an active Class (The Class must have a National/Regional Championship on an annual basis).
  2. Base Boat Rating – This Base Rating will take into account standard rig measurements (I, J, P, E), sail sizes/areas, Displacement as the boat was designed or from inactive original OD Class information.
  3. One Design boats that are not in compliance with the class rules will receive adjustments to the ODR Base rating and be nomenclatured as  “ODM” (One Design Modified).  All variations shall be reported to the Rating Committee.  If the excursion(s) is deemed significant, a PHRF-NB base rating will be issued, which notes the modification(s).

6.2  Headsails

  1. Roller Furler Credit      (+3)

Class Boats or a custom boat equipped by the original manufacturer with a roller furler, upon which the base boat handicap is established, are not eligible for a roller furl credit .

d.                 Cruising Headsail Credit (+6) Cruising Headsail Credit     (+6)

  1. Cruising Headsails shall comply with the following:ii.         The cruising headsail shall have a luff length 2.5% of the “I” measurement shorter than the head stay length as measured from the deck sheer line to the mast intersection.

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vii.   The cruising headsail is regularly used as the primary genoa/headsail when the boat is racing, day sailing or cruising during the sailing season, in or out of PHRF-NB’s region .

6.4  Reaching Headsails (Flying Headsails)

  1. These sails are defined as either spinnakers that do not conform to 6.3.b.iii. or headsails not conforming to 6.2.a. These sails are defined as a headsail that is not attached to the headstay (6.2.a.) and a spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length (6.3.b.iii.).

Table I: Propeller Adjustment

Position # of Blades Type of Propeller Sec/Mile
Aperture 3 Solid 6
Aperture 2 Solid 3
Aperture 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding -3
Exposed Shaft 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Exposed Shaft 2 Solid 6
Exposed Shaft 3 Solid 12
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Folding 0
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Solid Varied  3
Sail Drive 3 Solid 6
Thru Hull 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Thru Hull 2 Solid 3
Thru Hull 3 Solid 6
None/Insufficient – – – – – – -3
Outboard (not in water) – – – – – – 0
Drop Box Propeller 2 or 3 or 4 Solid Varied

7.4  Keel Type Changes / Modificatios

  1. Dagger boards – 0 sec/mile
  2. Deep draft, wing, bulb/strut, canting, etc changes will be addressed individually by the Rating Committee.

  8.1.    Reportable Modifications

  1. Increasing the size of sails.  All sails, new to the boat, shall be reported and the application shall be

 

Attachment C  –  Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

January 2022

PHRF of Narragansett Bay

Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

 

 

  • Purpose:       To provide basic information to assist Yacht clubs and Race Committees organize and run regattas using PHRF-NB

  • Background:            PHRF-NB, which rates approx. 500 boats, is one of the larger PHRF fleets in the United States.  We rate boats, sailing in and around coastal Narragansett Bay and on the open coast of Rhode Island and Block Island Sound.  We are independent of NBYA, and the NE and Long Island Sound PHRF organizations.  This independence is not unusual in the country, and while far from perfect, has led to a rating approach that adapts and rates far, far more boats for far longer than any other rating approach.

  • PHRF Rating Committee Make-up:              The PHRF-NB rating committee makes all decisions regarding boat ratings, appeals, etc.  It is led by the Rating Chairman, however, each member on the committee has an equal vote.  We attempt to have a broad-based committee from different geographical areas on the Bay, from different yacht clubs and of different professional backgrounds.  If your feel your Yacht club or area is not properly represented, please contact the PHRF office to discuss possible committee additions.

  • Rules/Procedures/Rating List:         “Principles of Narragansett Bay”, our Rating Procedures, By Laws, Notes to Appellants, Standard Adjustment Guidelines, latest Boat Ratings List, others comments, and results of appeals are all posted on our Web site < https://www.phrf-nb.org/>.

  • How to Handle Ratings: We email renewal ratings to all members by early March and applications and instructions are available from our office web site.  For your lowest hassles, we recommend the following:

1)  Your regatta/race notice state that “Valid 202x Narragansett Bay PHRF ratings are required.”  Certificate renewal notices are sent members in March of each year.  Help for any problem with certificate renewal can be obtained by calling the PHRF-NB office at 401 253-0207.  New 202x Certificate applications and instructions can be downloaded from our web site.

2)    Don’t get in the middle, keep the responsibility of filling-in the PHRF application and obtaining the PHRF-NB rating certificate on the sailor.  PHRF-NB does provide quick turnaround, is very flexible and will provide email service for special cases.

3)    Please be advise that PHRF does re-evaluate class boat’s base ratings and the criteria for adjustments from the base ratings in an attempt to stay current with technology improvements. Thus, previous boat ratings may not be valid for the current season.

Spinnaker and Non-spinnaker ratings:  PHRF issues both a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker rating for each boat. Your race instructions need to specify which one is to be used. Theoretically, the ratings reflect the speed difference between a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker, however, we strongly recommend that you do not mix spinnaker and non-spinnaker, within the same class.

  • Time-on-Time vs Time-on-Distance Scoring:            Races within the US are slowly changing to Time-on-Time (ToT), i.e. rating corrections are based on the time sailed whereas the earlier format of Time -on-Distance (ToD) uses time over a the distance.  The race committee can use the PHRF rating to score either way:  Your instructions need to state whether “Time-on-distance scoring will be utilized or “Time-on-Time” scoring will be utilized.  In general, we recommend ToT be used if your classes contain large rating spreads, i.e. greater than 30 sec/mile, your courses vary between “all reaching” and/or “all beating” since ToT would offer fairer scoring. However, Time-on-Distance scoring is more familiar to older racing sailors in the US and is applicable for Pursuit type races.

  • Safety/Boat size issues:      PHRF does not set safety criteria, e.g. lifelines, fire extinguishers, etc. PHRF does not restrict our ratings to any particular boat size or style. If you wish to limit your regatta to particular size of boats, e.g. “between LOA of 25 to 45 feet” or PHRF ratings, you must state such a restriction in your race instructions.  Likewise we do not specify instructions for safety in which our ratings are used for local club racing.  If you are the Organizing Authority for races traversing into Rhode Island Sound, Buzzards Bay and Long Island Sound or heading to Bermuda we recommend invoking the applicable recommendations found in US Safety Equipment Requirements – Coastal or Ocean grids (https://www.ussailing.org/competition/offshore/safety-information/ser-world-sailing-special-regulations/).  We also recommend when a boat checks in at the beginning of the race that the boat reports the number of “Souls on Board”.  Your race instructions must specify any safety or ORC safety requirements.

  • Crew Weight Limitations:          PHRF does not restrict the number/weight of crew on any particular boat.

  • Class splits/Sport Boats:          Classes with rating spreads of 30 sec/mile or less are best.  In addition, boat types should also be considered. There is a major problem with “Sport Boats” e.g. Melges 24, 30, Viper 840, VX-1, etc racing in the same class as normal boats as their speed on reaches and maneuverability are significantly different than the norm. All attempts should be made to segregate sport boats into their own separate class.

  • Major Regatta and General support:           For a major regatta, the race notice should specifically state that current PHRF-NB ratings are required, and that applications must be submitted by a certain date prior to the regatta.  PHRF-NB would be pleased to work with you on any race notices, and offers to provide any last-minute ratings just prior to the regatta, but these should be limited to special cases.  Please feel free to ask for any advice from PHRF on class splits, regatta notices or race instructions, crew limitations, etc.

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Attachment D

PRINCIPLES OF PHRF OF NARRAGANSETT BAY

(i)  FORWARD

As long as boats of different designs have raced against one another, skippers have sought an equitable method of handicapping. Various systems have been based on boat performance or measurement, or a combination thereof. In Southern California, where PHRF originated, one method or another of performance handicapping has been in use since 1906.

Measurement-based rating systems such as IOR, or IMS have proven to be costly, and complex. Most importantly, yacht designers have been able to “out-design” the rule, resulting in inequities that cannot be corrected. Therefore, many skippers have turned to the performance-based handicap system as the best assurance of their continued opportunity to compete fairly against all designs, new and old. In response to this, the PHRF system has spread rapidly throughout the country and is the predominant rating system in use in the United States. In Narragansett Bay alone, there are over 600 boats rated under PHRF.  There are no national PHRF ratings per se, and the US SAILING National PHRF Committee is only advisory in nature. However, a listing of all the PHRF ratings throughout the country is published by US Sailing and PHRF of Narragansett Bay frequently discusses ratings with other areas.

A brief explanation of the PHRF system is as follows.

(ii)  PERFORMANCE HANDICAPPING

PHRF performance handicaps are boat performance handicaps based on the speed potential of the boat determined, as far as possible, by observations of race results. The intent of PHRF handicapping is that any well-equipped, well-maintained and well-sailed boat has a good chance to win; and any boat that wins a PHRF race is indeed well-equipped, well-maintained, and well-sailed. Handicaps are adjusted, as needed, on the basis of the boat’s performance so that each boat will have an equal opportunity to win.  This is the fundamental concept.

PHRF handicaps are not intended to reflect the capability of the skipper and crew. Handicaps are not adjusted to permit a poor or careless skipper to score in the upper third of the fleet. Doing well in a race, therefore, requires the exercise of skill and ability. Consistently poor performance, sloppy maintenance, or deliberately holding back will not result in a more favorable handicap. Conversely, if a skipper and crew sail the boat well and consistently place high this will not, by itself, lead to a handicap that is less favorable than that of the actual performance potential of the boat.

If observed, actual performance is limited, e.g. for a new boat or if there is very limited race results in Narragansett Bay, the committee looks to PHRF ratings and results in other geographic areas and at technical parameters to help establish an equitable handicap.

(iii)    BOAT DESIGN

Under PHRF well designed and constructed boats are not expected to be obsoleted by new designs. PHRF does not use measurement formulas to determine handicaps because any formula, once established, can be circumvented by a clever designer. Under PHRF, as faster designs appear they are handicapped accordingly. PHRF does look at IOR and IMS ratings, and various technical parameters, to help determine a rating for a new boat or for appeals, but these design predictions are used for guidance only.

It is the intention of PHRF-NB to discourage “rule beating” and handicap boats in an “as-built” configuration. PHRF-NB will adjust the handicaps of boats modified from the standard configuration to compensate for any expected speed advantage due to boat modifications, sail size, etc.

Finally, PHRF does not make any safety judgments, or assessment or judgments on suitability of the design of any boat. We only try to assess the speed potential, and thus the PHRF rating, of a boat.

(iv)  COURSES

PHRF handicaps are intended for closed course as well as offshore and overnight races with a balance of windward, reaching and leeward legs where the entire sail inventory carried by each boat may be used. The system works well provided wind conditions affect all boats equally. It may not provide equitable handicaps for extremely short races, predominantly off-wind races, or predominately “beating” races or “twilight type” racing (i.e., dying breeze)

One simple, all purpose rating, in seconds per mile, is provided for spinnaker races and for non-spinnaker races. Although one rating may, for the non-standard conditions noted above, not be equitable, it is easily understood and desired by racers and race committee alike. Time on time (TOT) scoring is suggested for those races which are not “balanced” and have large PHRF rating spreads in a class.

(v)  RATING COMMITTEE

The goal of PHRF of Narragansett Bay is to have a well balanced, objective, and competent rating committee.  To achieve this, we attempt

to have members:

1) from different yacht clubs and geographic areas within the bay and the coast of Rhode Island,

2) who sail different size and types of boats in varied regattas,

3) who have different technical backgrounds, and on the water sailing abilities, and

4) who consistently exhibit objective, honest and equitable opinions and recommendations.

ARTICLE I – NAME AND OVERVIEW

1.1 The name of this organization shall be Performance Handicap Racing Fleet of Narragansett Bay (PHRF-NB). It will be an organization for sailors racing under the performance handicap system sailing in and around coastal Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island Sound and on the open coast of Block Island Sound, and will be the performance handicapping body for the Narragansett Bay Yachting Association (NBYA) and those clubs and associations that desire to use its services.  It shall be an association member of NBYA.

ARTICLE II – OBJECTIVES

2.1  It shall be the prime objective of this organization to promote performance handicap racing of racer/cruiser boats on Narragansett Bay.

2.2    It shall also be the objective of this organization to establish and maintain an equitable system of performance handicap ratings for yachts owned or chartered by members.  This system shall be based on the observed speed potential of rated yachts.

2.3    It shall also be an objective of this organization to assist yacht clubs and other race sponsors in the application of the PHRF handicapping system and to furnish information concerning the system and its application to interested organizations.

ARTICLE III – MEMBERSHIP AND DUES

3.1    Regular membership is open to any owner or charterer of a qualifying yacht.

3.2    Club membership is a separate class of membership open to any yachting group, whether or not such group is affiliated with NBYA.

3.3    Associate membership is open to any person who has a genuine interest in furthering the objectives of PHRF-NB.

3.4    The Executive Council reserves the right to deny or suspend membership for    due cause.

3.5    The schedule of dues shall be set by the Executive Council.

ARTICLE IV – MANAGEMENT

4.1    Executive Council

4.1.1  The management of this organization is vested in the Executive Council which shall decide matters of policy and be responsible for implementing that policy, setting dues, and adopting “Principles of PHRF-NB”, and “PHRF-NB Regulations (current year)”.

4.1.2  The Executive Council shall be composed of the four (4) officers of PHRF-NB. These officers are (1) Commodore, (2) Secretary, (3) Treasurer and (4) Rating Chairman.

4.1.3  A quorum for a meeting of the Executive Council shall consist of three (3) of its members.

4.2    Nominating Committee

4.2.1  The Nominating Committee shall consist of the immediate past Commodore of PHRF-NB, the present Commodore of PHRF-NB, and the present Rating Committee Chairman.  This Committee shall submit a slate of proposed officers at the annual winter meeting.

4.2.2  A quorum for this committee shall consist of all of its available members.

4.3    Rating Committee

4.3.1  The Rating Committee shall be responsible for organizing and administering the system of handicaps. It shall be governed by the “Principles of PHRF-NB,” these By-Laws and “PHRF-NB Regulations (current year).”

4.3.2  The Rating Committee Chairman shall call and conduct meetings of the committee and shall render a final and binding decision on questions properly brought up before the committee.

4.3.3  The Rating Committee Chairman shall call, as a minimum, quarterly meetings of the Rating Committee.

4.3.4   Rating Committee meetings may be held by in a hybrid format combining both remote access and in-person attendance.  In addition, the Executive Committee, or the Rating Committee Chairman may in its discretion permit entirely virtual meetings.

4.3.5  The Rating Committee Chairman shall use reasonable efforts and due diligence to ensure, when virtual or hybrid meetings are held, that the remote access is available to the members wishing to participate.

4.3.6  The ” PHRF-NB Regulations (current year).”” shall be the operational guidelines to the Rating Committee in establishing, maintaining, or altering the ratings of yachts.

4.3.7  Each member of the Rating Committee shall have one (1) vote. However, no member may vote, nor be present for the vote, on the rating of a yacht(s), or any rating adjustments thereto, which directly affects the rating of any yacht(s) upon which the member regularly sails. To the extent that members may vote on the adjustment(s) or ratings(s) of those yachts(s) in the same class as the yacht(s) upon which the member regularly sails.

4.3.8  A quorum for a meeting of the Rating Committee shall consist of four (4) of its members.

4.3.9  In the absence of a quorum at a meeting of the Rating Committee, the members present may assign tentative handicaps to boats not previously assigned handicaps by the Committee. Such handicaps must be ratified subsequently by a vote of the Rating Committee at which a quorum exists.

4.4   Other Committees

4.4.1  Other Committees, as required, shall be appointed by the Rating Committee Chairman or by the Commodore, as appropriate.

4.5    Elections and Appointments

4.5.1  The Commodore of PHRF-NB shall call an Annual Meeting to be held in the winter. This meeting shall be held in the months of January or February.

4.5.2  The Officers of PHRF-NB shall be elected annually by majority vote of the membership present. Nominations from the floor may be made in addition to the proposed slate from the Nominating Committee.

4.5.3  The Rating Committee shall consist of the Chairman, who shall be elected in accordance to section 4.5.2, and ten (10) members appointed annually by the Executive Council at a meeting held not later than April 1st each year.

4.5.4  Any committee member, or member of the Executive Council, may be removed from office for cause by a majority vote of the Executive council.

4.5.5  Committee or Executive Council vacancies may be filled by appointment of the Executive Council for a term of office expiring at the next Annual Meeting.

ARTICLE V – APPEALS

5.1    Overview

5.1.1  The handicap appeal process shall incorporate two (2) levels. The first level is an appeal to the Rating Committee, the second level is to US Sailing.

5.1.2  Any member of PHRF-NB may appeal the rating of his/her own yacht.

5.1.3  Any appeal of the rating of another member’s yacht must be filed by a minimum of two (2) members of PHRF-NB. Appeals must be received at the PHRF-NB office with forty-five (45) days of the original correspondence.

5.1.4  All appeals must first be submitted, in writing, to the Rating Committee.

5.1.5  All appeals shall be acted upon within fourteen (14) days of receipt, unless no prejudice shall result from a delay thereof.

5.1.6  All interested parties shall be afforded the opportunity to appear, and present evidence, at any hearing conducted in accordance with sections 5.2, 5.3, and 5.4.

5.2    Appeals to the Rating Committee

5.2.1  All appeals shall first be made to the Rating Committee.

5.2.2  The Committee may table, or reject, an appeal if its feels insufficient information is presented.

5.2.3  The format for the appeal hearing shall be at the discretion of the Committee.

5.2.4  The Committee reserves the right to refer any appeal directly to US PHRF.

5.2.5  The Committee decision and all rationale thereof, shall be returned, in writing, to the appellant within seven (7) days of the hearing.

5.3    Appeals to US PHRF

5.3.1  After the appeal process described in section 5.2 have been exhausted, an appeal can be forwarded to the US PHRF Selected

Appeals Committee for resolution.

5.4    Appeal of Another Yacht’s Rating

5.4.1  In addition to this section 5.4, sections 5.1, 5.2, and 5.3, apply to the appeal of another yacht’s rating.

The owner of the protested yacht shall be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing and provided a written summary of the facts presented in the appeal.  See Appendix A:  Rating Committee Procedures for appeal of another yacht’s rating by competitors

5.4.2

ARTICLE VI – AMENDMENTS

6.1    Only proposed By-Law amendments submitted in accordance with section 6.4 may be voted on at the Annual Meeting.

6.2    The Executive Council may propose any by-law amendment in accordance with section 6.4.

6.3    A minimum of ten (10) members of PHRF-NB may propose an amendment to these By-Laws by submitting such proposal, in writing, to the Executive Council no later than October 31st of each year. Notification of such proposed amendment shall be in accordance to section 6.4.

6.4    These By-Laws may be amended at the Annual Meeting by a two-thirds vote of the membership in attendance. Notification of the By- Law change shall be mailed to the membership at least fourteen (14) days prior to the date of the Annual Meeting.

ARTICLE VII – DISSOLUTION

7.1    Any proposal to dissolve PHRF-NB must be presented to the membership in the same manner as an amendment to the By-Laws proposed in accordance to Article VI.

7.2    After a notice of such proposal presented in accordance with section 7.1. PHRF-NB may be dissolved by a two-thirds vote of the membership in attendance at the Annual Meeting.

7.3    Upon dissolution of PHRF-NB, all liabilities of the organization shall be satisfied to the extent of the assets of PHRF-NB, with the remaining assets, if any, transferred to NBYA.

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Appendix A:

 Rating Committee Procedures for appeal of another yacht’s rating by competitors

 

Upon receipt of the appeal of another yacht’s rating by a minimum of two (2) members of PHRF-NB, copies of all documents relevant to the appeal are sent to the Rating Committee members and a hearing will be scheduled within forty five (45) days.  The owner of the protested yacht shall be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing and provided a written summary of the facts presented in the appeal.  The hearing will take place at time and location designated and presided over by the Chairperson the PHRF-NB Rating Committee.  The parties to the appeal will so be notified.

During the hearing, the appellants designated spokesperson will be asked to present their position and the owner of the protested yacht will present their position.  In the same order the parties to the appeal will be allowed no more than a ten minute rebuttal. The Rating Committee members will then question both parties to the appeal.  When this portion of the hearing concludes, the parties to the appeal will be notified that the decision will be mailed/e-mailed within seven (7) days and that no further communications regarding the appeal will be acknowledged for one (1) year from the date of the decision.  The Chairperson will then dismiss the parties to the appeal.

After this dismissal and the departure of the parties to the appeal, the Rating Committee will continue to meet to resolve the appeal and shall proceed to a decision.  The Committee decision and all rationale thereof, shall be returned, in writing, to the appellants and the owner of the protested yacht within seven (7) days of the hearing.

[DK1]In 2022 there is a reordering of definitions and the listing here is showing only the changes from 2021 in red

[DK2]Quite a few boats have mast/boom bands which are inside of their respective sheaves

[DK3]Complete explanation on how to set the spin pole for measurement

[DK4]Added statement on water ballast

[DK5]Reaching Headsails added to definitions

[DK6]Reflects the types that are in the table/application

[DK7]This what we have been doing, but have not made such a statement.

[DK8]The original intent for this credit was for cruising boats that only had a cruising headsail and was the only headsail used during the sailing season, with the exception when it was prudent to hoist a storm headsail.

[DK9]To expand on the definition/meaning of 6.2.a and 6.3.b.iii

[DK10]Reflects what is on the Cert’s application

[DK11]Table modified to reflect committee’s discussion earlier this season.

[DK12]What is a “Drop Box Prop”?  Is PHRFNB currently giving a credit to any boat for a “Drop Box Prop”?

[DK13]We also want to review when these changes are made

Documents: 

PHRF-NB Minutes October 25 2021.pdf

27 September, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes September 2021

Date:            Monday, September 27, 2021
Time:           1830

Location:      Finn’s Harborside (East G)

  1. Call to Order – By Commodore Kern at 6:30pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Grimes, committee member; Todd Johnston, committee member; Ken Madeiro,  committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member;  Kathy Rotsky, administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: Minutes of the August 30, 2021meeting seconded and approved by members present

  1. Appeals: None
  2. Ratings: Certificate 16282 – Laniva, Gulfstar 37, Michael Garretson, owner.  Need base rating, no existing base in PHRF-NB for this model. After discussion by the members present it was agreed and voted to establish a base rating of 159
  3. Old
  4. a)               Communication with US Sailing. Will sent a letter to US Sailing with a list of questions, to report if he has received any response. – US Sailing Tom Barnes, Michigan PHRF responded that US Sailing is fragmented but agreed with many points in Will’s letter. The national meeting may be held by year end the goals in Will’s letter will be presented.
  5. b)              For Discussion at September’s Meeting: Proposed changes to the rules for 2022, Don’s suggested changes are found in Attachment A.  Please review, recommend modifications and any other changes to the rules you believe will enhance the racing experience.

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Review of provisional ratings – continued, to get list of all 2021 provisional from Bob and Kathy as done in previous years along with appeals.
  2. b)       Review Delta (>9sec) between PHRF-NB and –NE – Don provided data for review
  3. c)       Proposed changes to Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees for 2022, Don’s suggested changes are found in Attachment B
  4. d)       Fix webpage so PDF print of cert works – this seems to work for some certificate holders but not others. Further review needed.
  5. e)       Add Graduated costs: $50 new Cert, $25 Change to Cert, $100 new Cert or Change within 10 days of requirement – discussion to continue as system is limited.
  6. f)        Unify the Model on application; i.g., “ODR” means no variances from class rules, J boats are listed as J/xx, J xx, Jxx, J-xx, J.xx; “Mod” Modify means the boat was changed after factory delivery, “Cust” Custom means the boat was modified by the factory prior to delivery. – Discussion to continue to be as clear as possible. This item drew considerable discussion. Definition and rule to be worked on by Randy Shore.
  7. g)       New rating classification for twelves manufactured before 1945. “Vintage 12 Metre”; i.e., Gleam – agreed to use the definitions provided by Peter Giraud
  8. h)       Request of sailing non-profits for gratis certifications – Limit to the number of certs?  Members present voted to approve 3 certificates per applicant
  9. i)         Add to the website the “How to measure sails diagrams” – this has been done
  10. j)         Meeting Oct 25th – Zoom and/or place – agreed to Zoom

VIII.    Adjournment: 9:21pm

Attachment A 

PHRF-NB

Proposed changes to the rules for 2022

  1.      Definitions (In order as they appear in Certificate’s Application)

P                                           Mainsail luff length from the top of the boom to the bottom of the upper mast band .  If no band, to the top of the main halyard sheave.

E                                           Foot length of the mizzen sail from the aft face of the mast to inboard edge of the band boom, if no band, to the clew in its most outboard position.

SPL                                        Spinnaker/whisker pole length is measured from the center line of  the mast (fore side) to the extreme outboard end of the fitting, with the spinnaker/whisker pole in its mast fitting and set in a horizontal, athwart-ship position.

Py/P2                                                Mizzen luff length …

Ey/E2                                               Foot length …

Max Draft                             Maximum depth …

Other Ballast                        Note any additional ballast with amount and location, such as bilge ballast or corrector weights. If Port & Stb’d water ballast , total gallons on one side.

Reaching Headsails  (Flying Headsails)

                                             A headsail that is not attached to the headstay and spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length.

Propeller Installation      How the propeller installed, aperture, exposed shaft, sail drive, thru keel, and drop box. shaft/strut, etc

Note:  “Aperture” is where the propeller is located in a faired opening between full keel and attached rudder

“Thru Keel” is where the propeller shaft exits from the trailing edge of the keel.

5.1.            PHRF-NB considers the base boat to be as follows:

  1. One Design – Boats rated in a One Design Rating (ODR) configuration shall comply with the hull, appendage, rig, and sail configuration specified by its Class requirements/restrictions.  Additional class requirements such as limitations on crew weight, hiking, sail materials/weight, number of on-board sails, new sail purchases, etc., will not apply. Variations shall be reported to the Rating Committee.  If the excursion(s) is deemed significant, a PHRF-NB base rating will be issued, which notes the modification(s).

6.1 Mainsails

  1. Cruising Mainsail Credit                         (+3)

The mainsail’s material must be:  Woven Polyester, Polyester  Composite or Polyester laminate, with an additional layer of woven polyester (taffeta), or Composite skin, both with the intent of adding durability to the sail.  Exotic materials are not allowed; (Pentex, PEN, Aramid, Technora, Carbon, Spectra, Ultra-PE, etc.).

6.2  Headsails

  1. Roller Furler Credit      (+3)

Class Boats or a custom boat equipped by the original manufacturer with a roller furler, upon which the base boat handicap is established, are not eligible for a roller furl credit .

 

  1. Headsails shall comply with the following:
  2. All sails to be used shall have a luff length 2.5% of the I measurement shorter than the head stay length as measured from the deck sheer line to the mast intersection.

iii.   Roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be above the lifelines.   If no lifelines are installed the clews shall be 18″ minimum height above deck for boats under 30′ LOA. For boats 30′ and greater roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be 24″ minimum height above deck.

  1. When hoisted there shall not be sail area below a straight line drawn between the tack and clue “foot roach”. v.     The cruising headsail shall be attached to the bottom drum, hoisted in a foil extrusion and have a top swivel, the system shall be functional.

d.                 Cruising Headsail Credit (+6) Cruising Headsail Credit     (+6)

  1. Cruising Headsails shall comply with the following:ii.         The cruising headsail shall have a luff length 2.5% of the “I” measurement shorter than the head stay length as measured from the deck sheer line to the mast intersection.iii.       Roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be above the lifelines.  If no lifelines are installed the clues shall be 18″ minimum height above deck for boats under 30′ LOA. For boats 30′ and greater roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be 24″ minimum height above deck.iv.       When hoisted there shall not be sail area below a straight line drawn between the tack and clue “foot roach”.

vii.   The cruising headsail is regularly used as the primary genoa/headsail when the boat is racing, day sailing or cruising during the sailing season, in or out of PHRF-NB’s region .

6.4  Reaching Headsails (Flying Headsails)

  1. These sails are defined as either spinnakers that do not conform to 6.3.b.iii. or headsails not conforming to 6.2.a. These sails are defined as a headsail that is not attached to the headstay (6.2.a.) and a spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length (6.3.b.iii.).

Table I: Propeller Adjustment

Position # of Blades Type of Propeller Sec/Mile
Aperture 3 Solid 6
Aperture 2 Solid 3
Aperture 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding -3
Exposed Shaft 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Exposed Shaft 2 Solid 6
Exposed Shaft 3 Solid 12
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Folding 0
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Solid Varied  3
Sail Drive 3 Solid 6
Thru Hull 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Thru Hull 2 Solid 3
Thru Hull 3 Solid 6
None/Insufficient – – – – – – -3
Outboard (not in water) – – – – – – 0
Drop Box Propeller 2 or 3 or 4 Solid Varied

7.4  Keel Type Changes / Modificatios

  1. Dagger boards – 0 sec/mile
  2. Deep draft, wing, bulb/strut, canting, etc changes will be addressed individually by the Rating Committee.

  8.1.    Reportable Modifications

  1. Increasing the size of sails.  All sails, new to the boat, shall be reported and the application shall be accompanied with a sailmaker’s certificate.

 

Attachment B – Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

January 2022

PHRF of Narragansett Bay

Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

 

 

  • Purpose:       To provide basic information to assist Yacht clubs and Race committees organize and run regattas using PHRF-NB
  • Background:            PHRF-NB, which rates approx. 500 boats, is one of the larger PHRF fleets in the United States.  We rate boats, sailing in and around coastal Narragansett Bay and on the open coast of Rhode Island and Block Island Sound.  We are independent of NBYA, and the NE and Long Island Sound PHRF organizations.  This independence is not unusual in the country, and while far from perfect, has led to a rating approach that adapts and rates far, far more boats for far longer than any other rating approach.
  • PHRF Rating Committee Make-up:              The PHRF-NB rating committee makes all decisions regarding boat ratings, appeals, etc.  It is led by the Rating Chairman, however, each member on the committee has an equal vote.  We attempt to have a broad-based committee from different geographical areas on the Bay, from different yacht clubs and of different professional backgrounds.  If your feel your Yacht club or area is not properly represented, please contact the PHRF office to discuss possible committee additions.
  • Rules/Procedures/Rating List:         “Principles of Narragansett Bay”, our Rating Procedures, By Laws, Notes to Appellants, Standard Adjustment Guidelines, latest Boat Ratings List, others comments, and results of appeals are all posted on our Web site < https://www.phrf-nb.org/>.
  • How to Handle Ratings: We email renewal ratings to all members by early March and applications and instructions are available from our office web site.  For your lowest hassles, we recommend the following:

1)  Your regatta/race notice state that “Valid 202x Narragansett Bay PHRF ratings are required.”  Certificate renewal notices are sent members in March of each year.  Help for any problem with certificate renewal can be obtained by calling the PHRF-NB office at 401 253-0207.  New 202x Certificate applications and instructions can be downloaded from our web site.

2)    Don’t get in the middle, keep the responsibility of filling-in the PHRF application and obtaining the PHRF-NB rating certificate on the sailor.  PHRF-NB does provide quick turnaround, is very flexible and will provide email service for special cases.

3)    Please be advise that PHRF does re-evaluate class boat’s base ratings and the criteria for adjustments from the base ratings in an attempt to stay current with technology improvements. Thus, previous boat ratings may not be valid for the current season.

Spinnaker and Non-spinnaker ratings:  PHRF issues both a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker rating for each boat. Your race instructions need to specify which one is to be used. Theoretically, the ratings reflect the speed difference between a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker, however, we strongly recommend that you do not mix spinnaker and non-spinnaker, within the same class.

  • Time-on-Time vs Time-on-Distance Scoring:            Races within the US are slowly changing to Time-on-Time (ToT), i.e. rating corrections are based on the time sailed whereas the earlier format of Time -on-Distance (ToD) uses time over a the distance.  The race committee can use the PHRF rating to score either way:  Your instructions need to state whether “Time-on-distance scoring will be utilized or “Time-on-Time” scoring will be utilized.  In general, we recommend ToT be used if your classes contain large rating spreads, i.e. greater than 30 sec/mile, your courses vary between “all reaching” and/or “all beating” since ToT would offer fairer scoring. However, Time-on-Distance scoring is more familiar to older racing sailors in the US and is applicable for Pursuit type races.
  • Safety/Boat size issues:      PHRF does not set safety criteria, e.g. lifelines, fire extinguishers, etc. PHRF does not restrict our ratings to any particular boat size or style. If you wish to limit your regatta to particular size of boats, e.g. “between LOA of 25 to 45 feet” or PHRF ratings, you must state such a restriction in your race instructions.  Likewise we do not specify instructions for safety in which our ratings are used for local club racing.  If you are the Organizing Authority for races traversing into Rhode Island Sound, Buzzards Bay and Long Island Sound or heading to Bermuda we recommend invoking the applicable recommendations found in US Safety Equipment Requirements – Coastal or Ocean grids (https://www.ussailing.org/competition/offshore/safety-information/ser-world-sailing-special-regulations/).  We also recommend when a boat checks in at the beginning of the race that the boat reports the number of “Souls on Board”.  Your race instructions must specify any safety or ORC safety requirements.
  • Crew Weight Limitations:          PHRF does not restrict the number/weight of crew on any particular boat.
  • Class splits/Sport Boats:          Classes with rating spreads of 30 sec/mile or less are best.  In addition, boat types should also be considered. There is a major problem with “Sport Boats” e.g. Melges 24, 30, Viper 840, VX-1, etc racing in the same class as normal boats as their speed on reaches and maneuverability are significantly different than the norm. All attempts should be made to segregate sport boats into their own separate class.
  • Major Regatta and General support:           For a major regatta, the race notice should specifically state that current PHRF-NB ratings are required, and that applications must be submitted by a certain date prior to the regatta.  PHRF-NB would be pleased to work with you on any race notices, and offers to provide any last-minute ratings just prior to the regatta, but these should be limited to special cases.  Please feel free to ask for any advice from PHRF on class splits, regatta notices or race instructions, crew limitations, etc.

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 [DK1]In 2022 there is a reordering of definitions and the listing here is showing only the changes from 2021 in red

Documents:

PHRF-NB Minutes September 27 2021 (002).pdf

30 August, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes August 2021

Date:          Monday, August 30, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Bristol YC / Zoom

  1. Call to Order : 6:30pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Todd Johnston, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: July 26, 2021 minutes seconded as presented and approved by members present

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       None
  3. Ratings:
  4. a)       Certificate 16172 – Tropical Storm, X-482, Ken Harris owner.  Different: LOA., Disp and Keel Wt. from X-482 Foxtrot (Base 36)
  5. b)       Certificate 16180 – Aquarius, Beneteau Figaro 2, Richard Feeny, owner. Different SPL and Sym vs As compared to Flying Turtle certificates 15719 &15720 determined that there was no issue, agreed by board members present.
  6. c)       Certificate 16181 – Hot Socks, Beneteau Figaro 2, Richard Feeny, owner. Different SPL and Sym vs As compared to Flying Turtle, certificates 15719 &15720 determined that there was no issue, agreed by board members present.
  7. d)       Certificate 16172 & 16225 – True North, J/105, Chris Robertson owner. SPL: 19.00’ owner entry was in error. Base is correct at 93.
  8. e)       Certificate 16172 – Verissimo, Alden 63, Chris Cannon owner. This boat was rated in August 2016. Base rating reviewed as 57 and members present accepted that rating for 2021.
  9. f)        Certificate 16172 – Outlander, Reichel Plugh 57, Ryan Novak-Smith owner. – Base rating needed. In 2020 this boat had a base rating of -72. It was agreed that additional information was needed to verify the base at -72
  10. g)       Discussion of ratings for Tartan 10 boats was brought to the table. These boat has a nationwide rating of 126 as a class carrying a 106% headsail. A discussion followed regarding if we should apply a credit of 9 sec for the small headsail. Or create a base of 135 and apply a credit of 9 sec to bring the rating to 126. The manner in which we rate class boats will be carried over to the 2022 certificate period. It was also discussed by the members present if PHRF-NB should not describe any boat as a One Design as One Design rules are not always used in PHRF ratings. This will be discussed further at future meetings.
  11. Old Business:

Update of planned dinner meeting at Finn’s Harborside (East G) Sept 27th.  Kathy will check to make sure they are open.

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Communication with US Sailing. Will has sent a letter to US Sailing with a list of questions but has not received any response as of this date.
  2. b)       For Discussion at September’s Meeting: Proposed changes to the rules for 2022, Don’s suggested changes are found in Attachment A, “Proposed Changes to the Rules for 2022”.  Please review, recommend modifications and any other changes to the rules you believe will enhance the racing experience.
  3. c)       Meeting – Sept 27:  Zoom and/or place

VIII.    Adjournment; 7:54pm

26 July, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes July 2021

Date:          Monday, July 26, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Bristol YC / Zoom

  1. Call to Order  – 6:41pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Grimes, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes:  Minutes of June 28, 2021 meeting voted to approved and seconded, passed by members present.

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       None
  3. Ratings:
  4. a)       Certificate 16114 – Shiksa, Oceanis 38.1 Beneteau DK, Vitaly Kmelnitsky owner. Members present agreed to use the base rating of the standard Beneteau Oceanis 38 which is 141 and adjust for the deep keel.
  5. b)       Certificate 16131 – Kirawan, Rhodes 52, Daniel Levangie owner. This boat compare favorably to Dorade and somewhat to Sunny but Sunny is lighter. This boat is in wood and was originally built in 1936. After a thorough discussion the members present agreed to a base rating of 81.
  6. c)       Certificate 16141 – Bahay, Dufour 325 Grand Large, Eric Schifrine owner. This boat compare to a Catalina 350 and regression calculations come out between152 to 168. Members present agreed to a base of 168.
  7. d)       Certificate 16158 – Alana, 6 Meter Thomas Rodes owner. This is a One design fleet and the size of sails is governed by the class.
  8. e)       Certificate 15545 – Wink, Graves Constellation 29.5, Gregory Anthony owner. Owner has provided a weight certificate. Adjustment for the missing weight number should be removed.
  9. f)        Certificate 16180 New Hope, Sea Sprite 23, Dom Messerli owner. The standard headsail size for these boats is a 135% genoa under class rules. This boat falls under the class rules and should have a base rating of 273. Members in attendance agreed to the base of 273.
  10. g)       A review of the adjustments on J30’s when the One Design pole is used in a non-One Design configuration. It was agreed that the oversized pole would require a penalty adjustment.

 

  1. Old Business:
  2. a)       None

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Communications with PHRF-South Shore. This group inquired if PHRF-NB would share the algorithm for our symmetrical vs asymmetrical spinnaker calculations. The members present agreed that we should share this information.
  2. b)       Changes to ECSA-PHRF rules, comments we to discuss their rules as part of the winter 2021 potential changes for 2022.
  3. c)       Suggestion of dinner meeting Sept 27th – Suggested that Finns Harborside in East Greenwich could be a good place. Vin and Todd will be asked for input.
  4. d)       Meeting – August 30th:  Zoom

VIII.    Adjournment – 7:40pm

28 June 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NBMeeting AgendaJune 2021

Date:           Monday, June 28, 2021
Time:          1830

Location:     Bristol YC / Zoom

  1. Call to Order – 6:34pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer: Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Cronin, committee member; Paul Grimes, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member;  Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: May 24, 2021 motion made and seconded and approved by members present to accept the minutes reflecting one change as noted.

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       Certificate 15987 – Celeritas, Figaro 3, Malcolm Gefter, owner – Appeal attached below. Mr.Gefter presented detailed race results for the races that he had competed in for 2021. He spoke of the reasoning behind request and the actual performance of the boat in relation to the VPP for the boat as well as unique features of the boat which hinder large crews. In the normal wind speed on Narragansett Bay. His presentation included that the foils only come into play at 22 degrees and with 18+ knots of wind. The foils create drag downwind slowing the boat. He indicated that he removed the Code 0 to eliminate the penalty it carried. Comparing it to the Sunfast 3300 he stated that he is at a significant disadvantage with the ratings as well as performance and race results bear that out.

The members present who had observed the performance of this boat agreed that the foils leave a lot to be desired. There is a certain condition where the design will excel which is reaching but not in most conditions on Narragansett Bay. In the 2020 Vineyard Race the 2 Figaro 3’s finished 1 & 2 in class and 3 & 8 in fleet under conditions that the boat was designed for. In the 2021 NYYC Annual Regatta the boats sailed painfully slow upwind as well as downwind and finished last. In the 2021 Leukemia Cup with wind speed of 14 knots the boat again finished last. Chesapeake Bay has the rating set at a base of 45. The Figaro 2 rates 57 base and sails at 69 in PHRF-NB.  After a long and thorough discussion the members present agreed to a provisional base of 48.

  1. Ratings:
  2. a)       Certificate 15545 – Wink, Graves Constellation, Gregory Anthony, owner. Waiting for sail measurements and needs to provide verification on other modifications that are not clear. Also owner was requested to have the boat weighed. A penalty if weight is not provided the same as sister ship Vela which was 3 sec will be assessed. Decision approved by the members present.
  3. b)       Certificate 15924 – Miss Molly, Oyster 55, Greg Morash owner. This boat is in need of a base rating, it compares to a Tayana 52 that has a base of 96 and Oyster 53’s and 55’s. This boat displaces 51,000 pounds and has various cruising amenities. After a thorough discussion by the members present it was agreed to assign a provisional base rating of 90.
  4. c)       Certificate 15981 – Midtown a racing, M32, Sam Hollowell owner. This is a multi-hull boat and should be referred to NEMA to obtain a rating as PHRF-NB does not issue multihull ratings. Members present agreed on this referral and to refund his $50.00 application fee.
  5. d)       Certificate 16052 – Salty Beach, Laguna Windrose 24, Brian Clayton owner. This design is similar to a Pearson Ensign which rates at 255. After review and discussion the members present agreed to a base of 255.
  6. e)       Certificate 16057 – Resolute V, IMX 40 Terrance Arndt owner. The owner submitted detailed information regarding rudder modifications and additional ballast. Based on the documentation presented and discussion of the existing rating and boat design it was agreed by the members present to adjust the rudder by -2 and a +2 adjustment for the ballast. The base rating remains at 42 and all other adjustments will be applied resulting in a sailing rating of 38 spinnaker and 61 non- spinnaker.
  7. f)        Certificate – 16069 Montego 25SD Friendship, Kenneth Wainer. The member presented reviewed the design of this 1982 boat and compared to a Balboa. After review and discussion the members present agreed to a base of 228.
  8. g)       Certificate -16008 – Dancin’Bare V; Robert Perry Custom Design 63, Jeffery Lichterman owner. Members present agreed to hold this certificate until more information obtained.
  9. h)       Certificate 16048 – Wilde Agnes, 1 Design 35 Modified, Paul Grimes owner. There are extensive modifications to this boat designed by Nelson Marek, which was built in 2000 by Carroll Marine. After reviewing the modifications which in some cases reversed back to the original design after the previous owner removed them and the changes in sail design which fall within the original specs it was agreed by the members present to leave the existing base rating and adjustments as is. Paul Grimes recused himself prior to the discussion and vote on this certificate.

 

  1. Old Business:
  2. a)       None

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Rating of Multihulls – As noted PHRF-NB does not issues certificates for multihulls
  2. b)       J/35, Seraphim, certificate 15665. Discussion of the current Cruising Headsail Credit Restrictions. This was submitted to the board for discussion base on the referenced boat that currently caries a cruising headsail credit but had raced in BIRW using a rating from out of district and not conforming to our requirements for the cruising headsail credit. It was agreed by the members present that PHRF-NB requirements did not carry over to other districts and could not create a rating issue in PHRF-NB.
  3. c)       Meeting – July 26th:  Zoom and/or place members present agreed that Zoom is more practical and encourages greater participation.

VIII.    Adjournment – 8:30pm

PHRF NARRAGANSETT BAY APPEAL FORM
   
Appeal of Yacht celeritas  
Owner Name malcolm gefter Class/Length  
Current Valid rating 17 Year 21 67  
Appellant’s name malcolm gefter  
Address 26 beacon hill rd City newport
State ri Zip Code 2840 Best phone number 6176972881
                 
Preparation details for Yacht being appealled
Sail inventory Sailmaker Material Weight Condition Age in months
Mainsail 1 north 3di   new  
Mainsail 2          
Jib 1 north 3di   new  
Jib 2          
Jib 3          
Jib 4          
Spinnaker 1 north nylon   new  
Spinnaker 2          
Spinnaker 3          
Spinnaker 4          
Other north CODE ZERO REMOVED FROM INVENTORY      
           
           
           
   
Type of bottom paint figaro class offshore Application method spray
Frequency of bottom cleaning 1-2/week Cleaning method diver
Dry or wet sailed wet Professionally prepared yes
If professionally prepared bottom, who prepared the boat beneteau/Lorient France
   
Crew information for Yacht being appealled
Number of years skipper has raced 20 number of crew on board (average) 3
Number of crew that race more fifty % of the events for this yacht 3  
Average years of crew’s racing experience (excluding skipper) 15  
   
Yacht’s race participation information
Number of races the yacht has been in during the most recent season
Evening   NBYA Races   One Design  
National Events 4 International Events    
                 

Text of additional comments

The Beneteau Figaro 3 is a one design class,designed primarily for offshore,harsh conditions and is meant to be sailed short-handed.Other offshore boats use water ballast like Sunfast3300, this boat has foils like an IMOCA 60.As evidenced in Vendee Globe and Ocean Race Europe , foils are NOT an advantage except for very special conditions of high wind, flat water. Since they cannot be retracted, in TWS less than 16-18Kts, they are a detriment in being drag only and no lift (righting moment) at low boat speeds, pretty much all upwind speeds. The max boat speed is 7.1 Kts upwind only achieveable at 15kts+ of TWS. and the boat must be heeled at 22 degrees to render the lifting surface parallel to water surface and thus useful lift. Downwind speeds and reaching are what the foils are good for but again boat speed must be greater than 14Kts to achieve a benefit and heel must be at least 15 degrees. So typical running with the A sail runner on the boat in VMG conditions produces only drag at TWS below 1518Kt-. Other good condition is with CODE ZERO at TWA of 120 degrees- we have removed the code zero because very little if ANY sailing inshore done at such angles.

  In summary, it is a 33 foot boat with extra drag compared to a “normal” 33 foot boat like a Melges 32 which I had and raced for 6 years. It had a PHRF rating of 60 and seemed quite fare given our results over the years racing PHRF. Our skill level was such that we won the Leukemia cup several times in around the island races, we won the Newport cup several times around the island, won the Conanicut YC round the island race, and was in the top ten world-wide sailing with pro crew sailing the boat One design.

That is all theory, but the results of last week NYYC regatta speaks for itself. WE sailed almost even with the best sailed Sunfast 3300 (BYTE) and better than the poorest 3300(Alchemist) but still lost because of our rating. Byte finished third overall with a 67 rating and all the miles sailed suggests we should have the same rating- —-we are at a clear disadvantage still upwind but in 15+ downwind we have a slight advantage. In over 25 TWS we would have an advantage but it is a very unlikely circumstance.

The results of last season with the boat sailed by professionals in doublehanded offshore configuration showed the SAME result relative to the Sunfast3300. In the New England solo twin race and the Ida Lewis distance race, the Beneteau could NOT beat the 3300 boat for boat as it was relatively light. In the Vinyard race where it was windy (25+) and with reaching possible, the boat could sail its rating. But with the demise of the Olympic doublehanded event, the boat will not sail offshore and for N.B. racing in 25+ will be very unlikely. Removal of the code zero also reduces the boats ability to reach at angles 95-130 where the boat has an advantage.

I know we sailed the boat well because we could match the polar VPP during racing. We had two of the three crew well-seasoned pro crew-Chuck Allen of North Sails and Erica Lush seasoned boat captain of 12M and excellent offshore sailor. The third crew was my wife who has raced for 20 years at pit. She has raced on Swan42, Melges 32 and J 105 One design for 20 years.

In addition to outcomes, it is clear that although we owed time to all other boats in our fleet we were clearly slower by a large margin expected for waterline differences for example compared to Mike Toppa on W43 . Our starts were all good including port tacking the entire fleet after one start and still coming third to the first top mark.

In order to be competitive and motivated, I suggest a rating equal to Sunfast 3300 of 67– and for sure if we just always win which would NOT have happened in the races mentioned- we would have been 4th, happy to change as would be appropriate. I feel the arguments are clear, and my skill level and crew work should have produced a more fair result.

Thank you

24 May 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NBMeeting AgendaMay 2021

Date:          Monday, May 24, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Zoom

  1. Call to Order 1830
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Cronin, Todd Johnston, Ken Madeiro, Vin McAteer, Moose McClintock, Randy Shore, Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: April 26, 2021  Motion made and seconded to approve April minutes, motion passed

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       None
  3. Ratings:

  1. a)       2021 Certificate 15759, Bella Vela, Beneteau Oceanis 45 SD, Anthony Costanzo, owner. – Many cruising amenities came factory ready and feels his rating did not account for this added weight. Todd Johnston indicated that this boat has in mast furling. Comment regarding main furler needs to be added in comments section. A provisional base rating of 105 with all allowable adjustment applied was suggested. This action was voted and approved by the members present.
  2. b)       2021 Certificate 16004, Red Herring, Goetz Custom 55, Steve Clark, owner.- A change from a symmetrical spinnaker to an asymmetrical spinnaker results in a large adjustment. Will Museler to review previous rating and suggest how to handle this certificate.
  3. c)       2021 Certificate 15545, Wink, Graves Constellation 29.5, Gregory Anthony, owner. Owner has submitted headsail and main measurements that need verification as well as other modifications that are not clear. Kathy Rotsky to contact for more information. Hold off on base rating until all information is clarified. This action was voted and approved by the members present.
  4. d)       2021 Certificate 15676, Firefly, Bridges Point 24, Samuel Goldblatt, owner. Owner is reporting an undersized mainsail and a reduction of his headsail to 100%. Base rating will remain at 240 and appropriate adjustments will be applied. This action was voted and approved by the members present.

  1. e)       2021 Certificate 15700, Dorade, S&S 52 Yawl, Matt Brooks, owner. – The design of this boat was to carry a large amount of sail, the owner is registering a 91% headsail for this certificate. A provisional base rating of 45 with all allowable adjustment applied was suggested. This action was voted and approved by the members present.
  2. f)        2021 Certificate 15802, Camelot, Brenta 38, Jonathan Litt, owner. After a review of the design and the comps for this boat a provisional base rating of 45 with a 90% headsail was suggested. This action was voted and approved by the members present.
  3. g)       2021 Certificate 15849, Artemis, Grand Soleil 37, J&J Design, Garrett Titmas, owner. Regression comparison comes up with a base rating of 118, Long Island has rated this boat at 87. It compares to a Bavaria and Choate 40. The range of high and low base was 88 to 111. A detailed review of the boat by the members present agreed that a base rating of 111 was appropriate for this boat as submitted.
  4. h)       2021 Certificate 15775, Audacious, Pearson Flyer, Kenneth Madeiro & George Lima owners. – Rating adj
  5. i)         2021 Certificate 15384, Dark Star, E-32-2 – Mod- Peter Levesque, owner. Owner submitted a rough drawing of the new sail drive compared to the previous unit. It was agreed by the members present that this is not and Evelyn 32-2 but only the hull of an Evelyn 32-2  of agenda, scroll down for drawing. The boat has a listed weight of 4,725 lbs. and many carbon fiber components. A provisional base rating of 72 with all allowable adjustment applied was suggested. This action was voted and approved by the members present.
  6. j)         2021 Certificate 15878, Different Drummer, Cape Bay Fast 40, Ryan Treat,owner – This is basically a custom boat with numerous modifications. There has been weight movement to the keel and keel modifications as well as changes to the sail plan. There are questions regarding the measurements that the owner has provided that will need to be clarified. Untill all questions are responded to the members present voted to hold off issuing a base rating.
  7. Old Business:
  8. a)       Graves Constellation discussion. The letter from Will Museler to the Graves owners has been distributed.
  9. b)       Request of sailing non-profits for gratis certifications; PHRF-NB procedures/requirements? Limit to number of certs?
  10. Peter Becker- Young American Campaign is requesting 3 gratis certificates from the committee this year.  Committee agreed to provide 3 free certificates.
  11. c)               Bob McLaughlin Letter on end of agenda. – The basis for the letter will be reviewed to clarify the ratings of the boats in question and reported back to the members.

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Meeting – June 28th:  Zoom and Bristol Yacht Club

VIII.    Adjournment – 9:15pm

Letter from Bob McLaughlin/ Owner of Blue Devil C&C 110

Hi Kathy.  I hope you and Mark are doing well.

 Are you still working with PHRF-NB?

 We were registered to race the Prett Gladding today (didn’t make it, engine wouldn’t start due to a very dumb error on my part…, ugh!), but I was very surprised to see the non-spinnaker handicap listed for MoonDog, a C&C 115, rated at 106.  (Blue Devil, a C&C 110 with her 98% jib non-spinnaker is rated at 110.)

 The C&C 115 is generally rated ~15-17 seconds faster than the C&C 110.  (I have a 2016 US Sailing PHRF Fleet Handicap book that lists the average of all clubs reporting being 66 for the C&C 115 and 82 for the C&C 110.  These ratings of course are for the full 155% headsail and spinnaker, but how do two similar designed boats that rate that far apart spinnaker end up so close when rated non-spinnaker?  Can you see anything relevant in either the 115’s rating our ours that would cause the numbers to converge so much?

 Bob

Letter from Roger Lowlicht/ Dark Star

Kathy,
Please forward the following information to the chief measurer and members of the committee so they can fairly rate Dark Star
Thanks
Roger Lowlicht

To NBPHRF Committee

1. Weight = # 4710.
This was obtained on a scale that was calibrated in December to be +/- 10 lbs. we took two measurements and averaged them
Bruce Kuryla ( a member of the ECSA PHRF committee was present for the entire weigh in process ( truck/trailer/boat minus truck/trailer). He also inspected the entire interior to certify that the boat met the required condition

  1. A Torqueedo 4.0 FP has been installed. Compared to a sail drive, the lateral plane areas are about equal
    However, in crosssection ( resistance thru the water) the Torqueedo has 26% more area

    3. We removed all of the carbon rigging and replaced it with rod. This from Chuck Poindexter ( Sound Spars) who did the rod rigging:

    “The difference in weight from your carbon shrouds to the new rod shrouds with some SS fittings is 12lbs.”
    This represents a 10-12% increase in rig weight as the rig weighs all up #110

    I hope this helps you make a determination of rating. We are looking to participating this summer

Roger LowlichtRoglowlicht@snet.net

10 May 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NBMeeting AgendaApril 2021

Date:          Monday, May 10, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Zoom

  1. Call to Order
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, rating chairman; Roy Guay, treasurer;  Paul Cronin, committee member;  Paul Grimes, committee member; Todd Johnston, committee member;  Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member;  Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: April 2021 motion made and seconded to approve the April 26, 2021 minutes

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       Certificate 15666 – Overproof , Open 30, Tim Scanlon, Mr Scanlon stated that he has owned the boat for about 1 year and that it has a Club ORC and that many of the numbers are questionable particularly the weight. He has race the boat twice this year and finished far behind on corrected time. His current base is 36.  Compared to the Sunfast 3300 Alchemist, Overproof is lighter and the designed mainsail should not have a penalty for being oversized as it is calculated in the base. The question of the water ballast weight appears it is 374 pounds vs. the Sunfast 440 pounds. The Sunfast 3300 has a base rating of 63. After a long and thorough discussion the members presented voted to approve a base of 57 with water ballast and Overproof would then sail at 47 after adjustments.
  3. Open Discussion: Graves Constellation with Graves owners regarding Base rating. Graves owners attending the meeting via Zoom were, Dave Pritchard, Mike Zani, Colby Smith, Bob Buffington, Pete Buffington, Ken Yeager.

Dave Pritchard was the spokesperson for the group of owns and presented slides representing the design of Graves Constellations and race results as well as facts regarding the Graves fleet preparation and post-race reviews as well as limited race results from the MOHOSA Race series and owner/skipper backgrounds.

Will Museler presented an ORA VVP study of the Graves compared to a J30 which showed the Graves rating in a range of 176 to 188. Documentation that was obtained in conjunction with Jim Teeters.

Prior to the conclusion of the Graves rating Pete Buffington asked to say a few words and described the effort that the Graves owners expend to prepare their boats and the review of their weekly performance

Mike Zani asked to presented data and information on his Graves Constellation, Vela, since it is a slightly modified Graves. His changes were documented and he also presented limited race results. His major statement was that the replacement mast weighs 20 pounds more than the original.

After the Graves owners left the Zoom meeting the members present had an additional discussion regarding the ratings for these boats and they agreed that an adjustment of 6 seconds to be applied the current base ratings of the Graves Constellations including Vela. Will Museler will draft a letter to the Graves Constellation owners informing them of this decision.

  1. Ratings:

  1. a)       Certificate 15495 – Bully Circus, Farr 30 EVO, Buster Pike owner. Owner needed to confirm measurements. This boat has a standard class rig, the original inboard engine was removed and replaced with an outboard. The boat should rate as a standard Farr 30 with adjustments. The members present agreed that a base rating of 51 should be assigned.
  2. b)       Certificate 15384 – Dark Star, E-32-2, Pete Levesque owner. Waiting for new measurements and weight.
  3. c)       Certificate 15700 – Dorade, S&S 52 Yawl, Jim Madden owner. A base rating of 74 was assigned based on information on the boat prior to the meeting.
  4. d)       Certificate 15759 – Choucas 3 RM1370, Frederic Cosandey owner. Mr. Cosandey is not satisfied that his rating is correct. Research has identified that this boat has a lifting keel that extended has a draft of 11 feet that was not reported in other PHRF ratings. Refer to letter from Mr. Cosandey. Members present agreed that the owner should be notified to file a formal appeal of the current rating. Base is 12 and sailing at 27.
  5. e)       Certificate 15759 – Bella Vela, Beneteau Oceanis 45 SD, Anthony Costanzo owner. Many cruising amenities came factory ready and feels his rating did not account for this added weight.  Emails attached. The boat has a base rating of 105 and sails at 124. The members present agreed that the owner should be notified to file a formal appeal.

VII.    Old

  1. a)       Peter Becker- Young American Campaign is requesting 3 gratis certificates from the committee this year. He thanks the committee for our previous support. Only 1 certificate was asked for and provided in 2020. This is a youth program. Randy Shore indicated that he was willing to pay for 1 C&C certificate. The members present agreed that 3 certificates will be made available.

VIII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Meeting May 24th – Zoom and/or place
  2. Adjournment  at 9:02pm

 

Subject: Choucas 3 certificate

I have just submitted a renewal application for my boat choucas3 sail number 13706.

I would like the phrf committee to have a another look at the rating.

I have received a rating of 54 from NE PHRF and a rating of 57 from YRALIS PHRF.

I find the rating of 12 from NB PHRF to be quite penalizing in comparison.

Why are the ratings so different?

Please advise.

Thank you

Fred cosandey

fred.cosandey@gmail.com

I don’t know if you got my last email or not?

As I stated before the boat has the ICW package.

This package shortens the mast an sail area.

Not to mention the keel.

This boat has many cruising amenities most do not.  Cummins Generator and not 1 but 3 AC units.

We obviously designed the boat for cruising first racing second.  Please let me know if any adjustments can be made on our PHRF rating.

If not, I completely understand we will take the good with the bad.

Anthony Costanzo III

Capitol Billiards

26 April 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Minutes of Monthly Meeting

Date:           Monday, April 26, 2021
Time:          1830

Location:     Zoom

  1. Call to Order 6:37pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Will Museler, Roy Guay, Bob Horton, Paul Cronin, Paul Grimes, Ken Madeiro, Vin McAteer, Moose McClintock, Mark Nannini, Randy Shore, Kathy Rotsky

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: March 2021 motion made to approve and seconded all present voted to accept.

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       Terrance Arndt, Resolute, IMX 40 – Mr. Arndt appeared before the board to state his case that his rating should be changed to reflect a slower rating. Based on input from members present who are quite familiar with the boat it was felt that the change to an Asymmetrical spinnaker was not helped by the shorter sprit that was installed on the boat. After a lengthy discussion it was discovered that the base rating calculation should reflect a rating of 36 not 31. The base is being changed and Mr. Arndt will be notified.

  1. Ratings:
  2. a)       Certificate 15395 – Solo Dream, Saffier 27 L, Peter Vessella owner, Base Rating needed – This is a new boat to the bay by a manufacturer that offers many options to the base boat. This particular boat has a single rudder, an electric sail drive and a mainsail that is subject to a penalty as well as a mainsail design that may contact the backstay. It was agreed by the members present to assign a base of 126.
  3. b)       Certificate 155335 – Kestrel ,Catalina 30,  Mark Franklin owner, New rudder. – After a thorough review of the information presented by Mr. Franklin comparing the old rudder to the new rudder it was agreed by the members preset that an adjustment of -1 sec should be applied to the new rudder.
  4. c)       Certificate 15514 – Kent Racing, Class 40, Timothy Kent, owner, Owen Clarke question – Do we penalize for reaching headsail? Based on the Class 40 standard sail class inventory it was agreed by the members present that since this boat will be competing with boats not in the Class 40 category that a -7 adjustment in the rating adjustments was appropriate
  5. d)       Certificate 15464 – Dancing Bear lll, Alden Center Cockpit 50, Constantine Baris owner – Base Rating Needed. YRA has a base of 108 for this model boat. PHRF-NE has a base of 90 for this model. This boat compares to a Hinckley 51 and a Bristol 47.7. Clarification is need on whether there is an in mast roller furler. If present will apply -6 sec adjustment. The members present agreed to a base rating of 102.
  6. e)       Certificate 15476 – Reveille Sigma 41FR, Jim Hammitt owner – Base Rating Needed. This boat has a draft of 7’3’’, a tall mast and is in fractional rig configuration, it is an imported British boat. This boat compares to a Sabre 38, Swan39.1, Sabre 40.2 and Sweden 41 which has a base of 84. It was agreed by the members present to set a base or 90.
  7. f)                Certificate15495 – Bully Circus Farr 30 EVO, Buster Pike, owner, removed diesel engine and sail drive, replaced with outboard engine and added fixed bowsprit. The owner states that this boat has a standard rig but his measurements are off to the standard boat. – Owner will be contacted and asked to confirm measurements.
  8. g)       Certificate 15384 – Dark Star E-32-2, Pete Levesque owner – Substantial modifications have been made and are supported by pictures. The boat will be weighted and an official measurer will be present. ECSA has a issued a rating of 65. This boat was formally known as Bluto and Ken Madeiro is quite familiar with the previous modifications. It was agreed by the members present that this is now a custom boat based off an Evelyn 32 hull and that a base rating will be issued once new measurements are received.
  9. h)        Certificate 15371 – C’est Bon – Beneteau Sense 50, Carl Metz owner, Debora McKeon is upset about the boats rating.  Please refer to the end of the agenda. (Headsail credit removed in 2019). – Based on previous review of this boat it was agreed that the rating adjustments are correct.
  10. Old
  11. a)       Water Ballast rating certificate vs adding shorthanded rating on cert. – The members present agreed that there is no change to the base rating for the water ballast option. It was brought to the attention of the committee members that certain certificate holders have removed the water ballast system. Alchemy has reported that change and will receive an adjustment of -1 sec.
  12. b)       J-Boats delta between J121 to J122 (2 boats in queue) – no action required.
  13. c)       Graves Constellation – Letter of Concern and processing certs (6 boats in queue) The Graves have appeared since 2016 as a concern to racers in the upper bay with 3 formal appeals of their ratings and 2 recent anonymous letters of concern. Based on input from various members, review of performance over the years and technical comparisons to J24s and J30s the members present with Bob Horton and Moose McClintock recusing themselves voted to change the base ratings for the Graves Constellations to 186 from the current 192.
  14. d)       Status of website modifications and estimate of applications going live
  15. e)       Boats needing spin measurements in queue 13

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Auxiliary Meeting May 10th – Zoom and/or place – members present agreed to this meeting
  2. b)       Meeting May 24th – Zoom and/or place – members agreed to meet via Zoom
  3. c)       Peter Becker- Young American Campaign is requesting 3 gratis certificates from the committee this year. He thanks the committee for our previous support.  Carried over.

VIII.    Adjournment – 9:23pm

Submitted by Bob Horton

  1. > Hello Kathy,

We submitted our renewal for 2021 based on the 2020 rating.  Last year we protested the 2020 rating of 61/75 because the prior year rating of 2019 was 62/76 and 2018 was 76/96 a differential of -14 and -19 seconds per mile.  This rate change was due to a change in the keel from Shallow Draft to Standard Draft.  The change in the keel should have resulted in a change of -7 1/2 seconds per mile.  The actual adjustment was -14 to -19 seconds per mile.  Last year we were told they would look at the 2020 race results before granting any adjustment for 2021.  The change was brought about in 2019 because we changed the keel.  Now that we are renewing the certificate and you have our race results from 2019 and 2020.  We expect you will reconsider the rating based on the correct rating adjustment for our keel.

I hope to hear from you soon.  Thank you.

Deborah McKeon

29 March, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes March 2021

Date:          Monday, March 29, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Zoom

  1. Call to Order – 6:30pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Will Museler,  Bob Horton, Paul Cronin, Paul Grimes, Todd Johnston, Ken Madeiro,  Moose McClintock, Mark Nannini, Randy Shore, Kathy Rotsky

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: February 2021 Unanimously approved by members present

  1. Review Draft of 2021 Annual Meeting – tabled
  2. Appeals:
  3. a)       Dudley Johnson/ Darris Whitman, Prevail -Tripp 65 – Darris Whitman represented the owner Dudley Johnson.2020 base was -75, sailed at -70. Sails are in good shape for racing, normally sails with a crew of 9 which is a good number to race the boat. Mr. Whitman compared Prevail to LAURA a R/P custom 60 which has a base rating of -59 and sails at -60. A great amount of information was provided to support the appeal. After a long and through discussion the members present agreed to adjust the base rating to -63. Will Museler will notify the owner of the decision.

  1. b)       Mark Sertl-Das Blau Max, Farr ( Mumm) 30 – Mark Sertl appeared before the committee to present his case that his Farr 30’s “provisional rating” should be reviewed and brought in line with other PHRF areas that had the same wind conditions. His opinion was that the base rating for Das Blau Max should be 54. A review of his sail inventory showed that in years it was quite old but Mr. Sertl stated that they were in good shape for beer can racing. A review of the results from 2020 show performance that was consistently in the top 3rd of the class Das Blau Max competed in. After a long and through discussion the members present agreed to leave the base rating at 51. Will Museler will notify the owner of the decision.

  1. Ratings:
  2. a)       David Tabor, Dianthus, CS Merlin – prior to the meeting the questions on this boat were resolved and a provisional base rating of 126 was assigned for 2021
  3. b)       Alfred Van Liew, Odyssey, S&S 47 (!964) Merlin – prior to the meeting the questions on this boat were resolved and a provisional base rating of 132 was assigned for 2021

VII.    Old

  1. a)       Status of website modifications and estimate of applications going live – registrations to go live in 2 weeks.
  2. b)       Water Ballast rating Certificate vs adding shorthanded rating on cert.
  3. c)       J-121 water ballast rating discussion request by Jeff Johnstone a continued discussion on the issue of water ballasted boats and if there is a way for PHRF-NB to qualify a rating for the J-121 which according to Jeff Johnstone would sail with 7 crew using water ballast or a crew of 11 without using water ballast. The committee has reviewed the difficulty in establishing separate rating and has decided to only issue 1 rating for the J-121 and let Race organizers establish crew vs water ballast adjustments.

VIII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Sail Clinics and form/instructions almost ready to be announced with a few tweeks.
  2. b)       Meeting April 26th – Zoom and/or place TBD
  3. c)       Anonymous complaint on Graves fleet modifications – the committee agreed that they are not happy to receive anonymous complaints but agreed to address the issues in the letter and notify the owners of the Graves Constellations of the items being presented to the committee and asked the Graves Constellation owners to report any modifications that they have performed in accordance with the rules of PHRF-NB.  Copy Will Museler’s letter attached.
  4. d)       Blackwing- Stuart Knockabout, Non Spin Adj the 2021 certificate for this boat has changed by 12 sec compared to 24 for previous years due to the new system correction a previous issue.
  5. e)       Serendipity- Freedom 30 SD, ISP? This boat does not fly spinnakers so no measurement needed.
  6. f)        Saffier 27L- Need rating https://www.phrf-nb.org/node/15395  this is a daysailer with a below deck roller furler and electric sail drive. More research to establish a base rating by next month
  7. g)       Dark Star-E32-2 Mod- Discuss modifications Edit PHRF Certificate Dark Star | PHRF of Narragansett Bay (phrf-nb.org) Carried over to April meeting  Carried over to April meeting
  8. h)       Gamecock IC-37- What is the standard main? We are already adjusting the calculation. Edit PHRF Certificate Gamecock | PHRF of Narragansett Bay (phrf-nb.org) Carried over to April meeting
  9. i)         C’est Bon- Debora McKeon is upset about the rating.  Please refer to the end of the agenda. Edit PHRF Certificate C’est Bon | PHRF of Narragansett Bay (phrf-nb.org) Carried over to April meeting
  10. j)         Thru Keel, 3 blade solid.  Is there any adjustment? Not listed in the rules. To be reviewed.
  11. k)       Corvus-Morris Justine 36 SD Edit PHRF Certificate Corvus | PHRF of Narragansett Bay (phrf-nb.org)

He installed an articulating pole. Asym retro install adjustment? Carried over to April meeting

  1. Adjournment; at 9:32

Minutes submitted by Bob Horton

  1. 2020 certificate breakdown by rating:

Here is some information from the 2020 certificates file that I sorted down

I’m comfortable with the accuracy of my sorting and resorting files

Bob H.

Rating range   # certs
From To  
250 999 14
226 250 8
201 225 17
176 200 34
151 175 28
126 150 60
101 125 53
76 100 66
51 75 53
26 50 24
1 25 10
0 -49 18
-50 -99 9
-100   1
     
      395

# Roller furler certificates               +3         118

# Cruising headsail credits             +6           49

Number of boats with 2 certificates        15 boats = 30 certificates

 

> Hello Kathy,

>     We submitted our renewal  for 2021 based on the 2020 rating.  Last year we protested the 2020 rating of 61/75 because the prior year rating of 2019 was 62/76 and 2018 was 76/96 a differential of -14 and -19 seconds per mile.  This rate change was due to a change in the keel from Shallow Draft to Standard Draft.  The change in the keel should have resulted in a change of -7 1/2 seconds per mile.  The actual adjustment was -14  to -19 seconds per mile.  Last year we were told they would look at the 2020 race results before granting any adjustment for 2021.  The change was brought about in 2019 because we changed the keel.  Now that we are renewing the certificate and you have our race results from 2019 and 2020.  We expect you will reconsider the rating based on the correct rating adjustment for our keel.

>     I hope to hear from you soon.  Thank you.

> Deborah McKeon