Category: Meeting Minutes

27 June 2022, PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NBMINUTESJune 27, 2022

Date:            Monday, June 27, 2022

Time:           1830

Location:     Zoom

  1. Call to Order:6:42pm

  1. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore: Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Ec Helme, Committee Member; Vin McAteer, Committee Member;  Randy Shore, Committee Member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: May 2022, Clarification needed:

Boats that carry no spinnaker, should they be receiving a spinnaker rating – it was agreed by the members present that the standard measurements would be plugged in if no measurements are supplied even if the owner states no spinnaker on board.

Notes from the May meeting were read and the members present agreed with the wording as written.

  1. Appeals:

It was mention by Randy Shore that a ratings appeal for the C&C 30’s should have been received. Research by Roy Guay and Kathy Rotsky identified a problem within the system that did not alert them to the appeal even though the required fee had been paid. The appeal will be presented to the members for review at the July meeting.

  1. Ratings:
  2. a)       2022 Certificate #16799 – Borrensen BB-10, Snow Petrel, George Wilson Lovett owner. This boat compares similarly to an Abbot 33 which Will Museler believes sails to its rating while Vin McAteer believes the Abbott has a soft rating of 126. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 129.
  3. b)      2022 Certificate #16890 – Grand Soleil 42 LC, Mango, Roger Shepley owner. This boat was compared to a J46 and J133. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 48.
  4. c)       2022 Certificate #16905 – CTM 41, After Midnight, Paul Jeka, owner. The members present discussed whether this was actually a boat named High Noon. After review it was determined that this was a different boat based on sail numbers and ORC as well as IRC data. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of -18 after rig information is received that compares to known data..
  5. d)      2022 Certificate #16929 – JPK 45, Take Two, Gordon Fletcher, owner. This boat was compared to a J46 at base 39 and a Beneteau 37.7 with various ratings between 24 and 30. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 54 if ISP is provided that allows the calculation of all factors..
  6. e)       2022 Certificate #16931 – Eight Meter, Angelita, Samuel Croll, owner. This is a classic wooden boat with a traditional underbody Regression shows a 96 rating, CT-PHRF has one at 111 an old PHRF-NB rating was 159 which members agreed was way off. After much discussion the members present agreed to a 2022 provisional base rating of 111 which puts it in the same range as a J29.

 

VI         Ratings Review:

  1. a)       2022 Certificate #16909 – Swan 48-2- Dragon, Email attached below.  Hugh Balloch requested a review post modification to his boat.  Matt Smith will be asked to review the information provided to determine if any action should be taken regarding a rating adjustment

VII        Old Business:

  1. a)    Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing. There has been no response to the inquiries that Will Museler or Roy Guay has submitted.
  2. b)    Changes and updates to PHRF-NB website.
  3. i)        Roy Guay has not received any response from Erik about feasibility and cost
  4. ii)      A proposal from 6 Square to provide web services was received and reviewed 6 Square is based in Newport and provides services to the Newport YC. Newport YC is satisfied with the service and product provided to them by 6 Square. It was voted and approved by the members present to move forward to hire 6 Square to develop a new website and convert our existing website data.

VIII      New Business:

  1. a)      Meeting July 25th – Zoom

Adjournment: 8:30pm

Email from Hugh Balloch regarding Swan 48-2, Dragon

I am writing to give the background to the recently submitted rating renewal for our Swan 48 Dragon.

As we are aging less gracefully than our Swan, we have decided to refit the boat with a cruising oriented rig from Offshore Spars. The mast and electric furling boom is fabricated from carbon. The standing rigging remains stainless rod rigging. A slight change from the original Swan specifications the mast height was increased slightly to create a 15/16ths rig with the mainsail hoist about a foot above the headstay attachment. This facilitates top down furling and snuffing of the spinnakers without hanging up on the headstay furling mechanism. No change was made to any of the headsails or spinnakers we use. The old main had a small panel added to the bottom and the luff curve cut out to accommodate the furler and mast luff tape feeder. The new P and ISP numbers provided by our naval architect advisor Jason Black (copied on this email) have been submitted with our renewal form.

While the mast is carbon and therefore somewhat lighter, the new carbon boom is substantially heavier than the aluminum one it replaces as it has a separate mandrel that rolls down the sail and several electrical components to operate the roller mechanism. The mainsail is no longer adjustable along the foot other than by starting to roll in a kind of “flattener” reef.

Additional changes were made to increase cruising comfort and spousal happiness including two electric heads replacing old Blake manual ones. An upgraded Harken 46 electric mainsheet winch that has a reverse function, replaces the electric Lewmar 54. All new B&G 5000 series instruments and Simrad autopilot uses the same hydraulic ram and motor so I doubt there is any weight change associated with that; but our SSB has been removed.

If there is any additional information the Committee would like, please feel free to reach out to me or Jason and we will provide what we can.

Regards
Hugh Balloch

23 May 2022, PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NBMeeting MinutesMay 2022

Date:          Monday, May 23, 2022

Location:   Zoom

  1. Call to Order: 6:30pm

  1. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, rating chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, secretary; Ec Helme, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member, Vin McAteer, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member; Matt Smith, , committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.        Approval Meeting Minutes: The minutes from the April 25, 2022 meeting were voted and seconded by the members present to be accepted as distributed unanimously.

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)    2022 Certificate #16390 – Mutinous Dog, Tartan Ten, Marc Holdaway. Mr Holoway contends that the rating of his Tartan Ten should be identical to the Tartan Ten Lorax. The difference between the two ratings is that Lora has received a credit for using a headsail smaller than 155%. Extensive review of other PHRF area found that most T10’s race with larger head sails and only the Great Lakes are had a T10 One Design fleet that rated the boats as 126. After a lengthy discussion it was agreed that Mutinous Dog should have received a credit to its rating for having a smaller headsail. Mr Holdaway entered the meeting and was informed that his rating would receive a credit of 9 sec for the smaller sail and that due to the action of the committee his appeal fee would be refunded.
  3. b)    2022 Certificate 16326 – Hawksbill, Beneteau First 27SE, David Wilson, appealed his rating based on his assumption that the Beneteau 1st 27 is the same boat as a Seascape 27 that was produced since 2011.  The committee compared the newer Beneteau First 27SE to other PHRF areas various boats racing on Narragansett Bay ORC rates the Seascape differently than the First 27SE with the Seascape rated slower. After discussing the comparable boats it was agreed by the members present that a provisional base rating of 90 would be assigned for the 2022 season. Rating Chairman Will Museler will notify Mr. Wilson of the provisional base rating and our reasoning.

 

  1. Ratings:
  2. a)       2022 Certificate #16763 – Marten 49, Pugilist, Dudley Johnson, owner. This is was formerly AKA Summer Storm. The rating of -45 was in effect previously. Members present agreed that the rating should remain at -45.
  3. b)      2022 Certificate #16429 & 16885 – Sabre Spirit 36 WK, Erocia, Robert Green, owner. It was noted that as designed the boat comes with a below deck roller furler and a self-tacking jib. Regression formula reflects 109, Members present agreed that the provisional rating should be 117
  4. c)       2022 Certificate #16745 – Botin 55, Outlier, Harvey Jones, owner, email attached to the minutes. Members present agreed that this should be presented by the owner as an appeal of the rating.
  5. d)      2022 Certificate #16747 – 12 Meter, Columbia US16, Kevin Hegarty, owner. Agreed by the members present that we would follow the precedent set by the 12 Meter Association that has PHRF ratings of Traditional -33, Classic -30, Modern, and Grand Prix
  6. e)       2022 Certificate #16708 – International 110, Pelican, Steve Clark, questioned the base rating. The members present agreed that this model with 1 trapeze and a 180% headsail should be rated at a base of 174.

 

  1. Ratings Review:
  2. a)       2022 Certificate #16335 – Freedom 30 SD, Serendipity, Gary Venable owner. Email attached at the bottom of the minutes. Members present agreed to leave the 2022 base rating as is at 202.

VII.        Old Business:

  1. a)    Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing. – No update.
  2. b)    12 Meter update – this was addressed in the open ratings section
  3. c)    Changes and updates to PHRF-NB website.
  4. i)           Roy’s talk to Erik about feasibility and cost
  5. ii)         Others contact with potential webmasters

VIII.        New Business:

  1. a)      Meeting June 27th – Zoom
  2. a)         Boats that carry no spinnaker, should they be receiving a spinnaker rating.  It was agreed by the members present that the standard measurements would be plugged in if no measurements are supplied even if the owner states no spinnaker on board.

  1. Adjournment:

From Gary Venabal dated 5/10

I was hoping to have this resolved before the first race…. Which is tonight (JYC)…I have forwarded my PHRF (to JYC) showing a rating of 199….. Last night I reviewed the PHRF notes of February which indicated the committee was looking into the ratings for the various NONSUCH’s…. there was no mention of the Freedoms.   After further investigation I have the following observations:

–           Over the last several years there have been only 8 Freedoms that had a PHRF rating ….. 4 of them had it for one year… one for 2 years (Hoyt designed 32)  Pedrick and Koch have raced their Freedom 35’s for more years than I raced my 30…. And now Koch has decided to race another boat this year…. Which leaves only Dave Pedrick and myself racing Freedoms.

–          Dave Pedrick has raced the boat that he designed ….The Pedrick Freedom 35 was offered with traditional Freedom Club Foot jib (like my Gary Mull designed 30SD) or roller furling which is what he has.

–          Of the three Mull designed Freedoms that are listed in the rating history …. Claus has 30 with standard keel and was rated 205 …he raced one year 2017

Collins has Freedom 32 (same boat as Claus but with a swim platform) his rating in 2019 was 206…. And Caspersen who registered a 32SD and received a 207 rating 2018…. None of these boats raced again.

–          There is only one NONSUCH  registered this year “Encore” which has a base rating of 240 and a non-spin rating of 248.

–          STAR DANCER….Dave Pedrick’s boat has a spin rating of 132 and a non-spin rating of 142….

–          There are 165 registered boats in PHRF-NB (some twice ..J-109s r) all but two boats have a spin credit …. SERENDIPITY and a Marshall Sanderling (Catboat)..which carries a rating of 321.

Given all the above I fail to understand why our rating was dinged for 12 secs a mile.

I appreciate all that you do and fully understand how difficult it must be to “get it right”.   We have been somewhat successful but I believe that  is because we have learned the boat over the years, it is well prepped, I have two crew members that have extensive sailing and racing experience.

I had thought that once the facts were presented …. That Serendipity is in fact a sloop, capable of carrying a spinnaker and not a NONSUCH, this would be easily corrected.

Please let me know if I need to file an appeal…. But nothing has changed on the boat for the last seven years so I hope I needn’t

From Harvey Jones/Botin 55, Outlier

 

 Kathy,

I just submitted the renewal for OUTLIER’s PHRF-NB certificate in preparation for the NYYC Annual Regatta in June. I didn’t see a place to add notes to the renewal application so I am submitting this email for that purpose.

OUTLIER’s original PHRF-NB certificate was issued in 2019, the year the boat was built, prior to any racing and with little information about her performance. The PHRF-NB Committee did the best job they could, given what they had to work with, rating the boat. Now we have 3 years of experience racing under CRF and PHRF-NE and OUTLIER’s performance can be compared to other boats. I hope the Committee will take a new look.

After the first season, PHRF-NE modified OUTLIER’s rating from -48/-39 to -39/-30. Further a good boat to compare to OUTLIER is Irie-2. They share many of the same dimensions with the major difference being weight. Irie-2 is a carbon boat with no interior to speak of, while OUTLIER is a wooden boat with a full wood interior. OUTLIER weighs twice as much as Irie-2. I realize PHRF-NE and PHRF-NB are different but boat-to-boat comparisons are legitimate. In PHRF-NE Irie-2 is rated -69/-60 thus there is a 30 second/mile difference to OUTLIER’s -39/-30 PHRF-NE rating. Given the 9 second adjustment PHRF-NE made to OUTLIER’s rating from -48/-39 to -39/-30 and the 30 second PHRF-NE spread between Irie-2 and OUTLIER, I would respectfully request the PHRF-NB consider a similar adjustment to OUTLIER’s 2022 PHRF-NB rating.

I would appreciate it if you would share this email with whoever is involved in formulating the rating.

Thank you,

Harvey Jones

28 Feb 2022, PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB

Minutes

February 2022

 

Date:  Monday, Feb. 28, 2022

Time:  1830

Location: Zoom

 

I. Call to Order: 6:34pm

 

II. Roll Call:  Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay,Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Todd Johnston, Committee member; Ken Madeiro, Committee member; Vin McAteer, Committee member; Mark Nannini, Committee member; Randy Shore, Committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

a) Vote on Approval of new Committee member: Motion made and seconded to approve E.C. Helme as a PHRF-NB Committee member. Those present voted unanimously to approve the recommendation to add EC Helme as a committee member.

 

III. Approval Meeting Minutes: November 2021. Motion made and seconded to approve the November minute. Members present voted to approve the minutes

 

IV. Review Draft of 2022 Annual Meeting. Members present stated that review found no changes to the draft minutes

V. Appeals:  None

VI. Ratings: Review Request:

a) Steve Clark – asked for a rating on his International 110, Portsmouth Yardstick, PHRF-NB example: Good Foot. The members present accepted the recommendation from the Rating Chairman to ask Steve Clarke to submit a rating certificate with supporting documents.

VII. Ratings Review:  It was agreed by the members present to table the review of rating for the listed boats until more data is obtained. Will Museler has sent a letter to ESCA and Detroit PHRF asking for any data they have on the Nonsuch boats.

a) Alerion 28:  US Sailing fleet, PHRF-NB example: Little Zilla  Weight question is key.

b) Nonsuch 30

c) Nonsuch 33

d) Nonsuch 36

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a) Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing; Will to update.

b) Changes and updates to PHRF-NB website – members input is the concern about the flexibility of the existing system. Also the commitment that Erik can put into our requests as this is not primary focus. It was suggested that we begin a search for a new webmaster.

i) Roy’s talk to Erik about feasibility and cost

ii) PDF print of cert works is now working

iii) Add Graduated costs: $50 new Cert, $25 Change to Cert, $100 new Cert or Change within 5 days of requirement. These costs are all handled manually by Kathy Rotsky as they occur and need to be clearly stated.

iv) Implement drop down for boat model/type. This change will be requested.

v) Rename drop down “Rating Rules” to “Rules & Instruction”, New sub-drops “Rating Rules”, “Appeals” add Appeal Guidance, “Principles of PHRF-NB” and “Instructions & Guides” (attachment below)

IX. New Business:

a) Proposed new members for Committee: Ben Hall and Henry Little. Kathy Rotsky is working to clarify their interest in joining PHRF-NB

b) Communication from Jay Tyson at ORA regarding ORREZ. – ORA1, Perf Lite has been dropped. Gulf Yachting is no longer participating in the test and has moved to ORREZ. Will Museler spoke with Jay and was asked if info on results that they could shadow. Twenty Hundred Club will accomodate

c) Review of “New Base/Changes to Base Rating Procedure” (2017)

d) Meeting March 28th – will Zoom

e) Bob Horton will provide the list of provisional ratings issued in 2021 and 2021 rating appeals for review.

 

X. Adjournment: 8:15pm

 

 

 

APPEAL GUIDANCE

The handicap appeal process has two levels of appeal. The first level of an appeal is to the PHRF-NB Rating Committee, the second level is to US SAILING.  Please note that the PHRF-NB Rating Committee may table, or reject, an appeal if it feels insufficient information is presented.  Also, the Committee may refer any appeal directly US Sailing Race Administration Director.  PHRF-NB appeal process is outlined below, but may be modified by the Rating Committee Chairman at his discretion.

Appealing of a yacht’s rating by owner

Any member of PHRF-NB may appeal the rating of his/her own yacht by electronic submission, to the Rating Committee at PHRF-NB Admin <PHRFAdmin@phrf-nb.org> and filling out the two page Appeal Form found at <https://www.phrf-nb.org/sites/default/files/AppealForm_0.xls> The appeal will be acted upon within forty-five days of receipt.

The owner of the yacht shall be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing.  The hearing will take place at time and location designated and presided over by the Chairperson of the PHRF-NB Rating Committee.  It is preferred that the meeting take place in-person, but may be conducted by electronic means if the Chairperson deems that to be necessary.

During the hearing, the owner (or his representative) will present their position.  The Rating Committee members will then ask questions of the applicant.  Upon conclusion of the question period, the owner will be asked to withdraw from the hearing.  The Rating Committee will continue with the hearing meeting to resolve the appeal and proceed to a decision.  Within seven days, the owner will be notified of the decision and all rationale of the Rating Committee, by e-mail.  No further communications regarding the appeal will be acknowledged for one year from the date of the decision.

Appeal of Another Yacht’s Rating

At least two members of PHRF-NB may appeal the rating of Another Yacht’s Rating by electronic submission, to the Rating Committee at PHRF-NB Admin <PHRFAdmin@phrf-nb.org> and filling out the two page Appeal Form found at <https://www.phrf-nb.org/sites/default/files/AppealForm_0.xls>..  Upon receipt of the appeal of another yacht’s rating, copies of all documents relevant to the appeal will be sent to the Rating Committee members and a hearing will be scheduled within forty-five (45) days.  The owner of the protested yacht be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing and provided a written summary of the facts presented in the appeal.  The hearing will take place at time and location designated and presided over by the Chairperson of the PHRF-NB Rating Committee.  The parties to the appeal will so be notified.  It is preferred that the hearing take place in-person, but may be conducted by electronic means if the Chairperson deems that to be necessary.

During the hearing, the appellants designated spokesperson will be asked to present their position and the owner of the protested yacht will present their position.  In the same order, the parties to the appeal will be allowed no more than a ten-minute rebuttal. The Rating Committee members will then question both parties to the appeal.  When this portion of the hearing concludes, the Chairperson will then dismiss both parties to the appeal.

After this dismissal and the departure of the parties to the appeal, the Rating Committee will continue to meet to resolve the appeal and shall proceed to a decision.  The Committee decision and all rationale will be returned, by e-mail to the appellants and the owner of the protested yacht within seven (7) days of the hearing.  No further communications regarding the appeal will be acknowledged for one (1) year from the date of the decision.

Appeals to US SAILING

After the appeal processes described above, an appeal of PHRF-NB Rating Committee decision can be forwarded to the US Sailing Race Administration Director for resolution.

Documents:

January 2022 PHRF-NB Annual Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Annual Meeting Minutes January 2022

Date: January 26, 2022
Attendees: PHRF-NB Board and Committee as well as PHRF-NB members and stand-ins
Time: 1830
Location: Zoom Meeting

  1. Call to Order
  2. Roll Call – Don Kern, Commodore Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Todd Johnston, Moose McClintock, Ken Madeiro, Vin McAteer, Kathy Rotsky PHRF-NB Administrator

PHRF Members in attendance; EC Helm, Nick Bowen, Bill Kneller, Mark Rotsky, Skip Mattos, Jonathan Nye, Chadwick Dickson, Nick Brachet, Paul Grimes, AB K Kaebel Representing Tim Grimes, Tripp Alyn representing Coasters Harbor

III. Approval of 2021 Annual Meeting Minutes. Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the 2021 Annual Meeting minutes

  1. Treasurers Report – Roy Guay Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the annual treasurers report.
  2. Nomination of Officers

Officers nominated with committee approval.

  1. a) Commodore – Don Kern
  2. b) Rating Chairman – Will Museler
  3. c) Treasurer – Roy Guay
  4. d) Secretary – Bob Horton

Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the slate of 2022 officers.

  1. Proposed Changes for 2022 Season
  2. a) Revision and updating of PRINCIPLES OF PHRF OF NARRAGANSETT BAY

Both Redline changes and changes implemented versions.

Motion Made, seconded and approved to accept the updated version of the principles.

  1. b) Updating of PHRF-NB REGULATIONS; Definitions alignment and order of appearance as found in certificate application. Both Redline changes and changes implemented versions.

Commodore Kern submitted an oral change that would be reflected in the class/model of a boat that would place a – (dash)in the description: Example C&C 34 – MK3

Bill Kneller asked if the model of a boat could appear as a dropdown. Roy Guay, Don Kern and Will Museler agree that this is a good idea but with the potential for upgrading or converting the existing platform it is best to but this on the future enhancements list.

VII. New Business – There was no new business submitted by those in attendance.

VIII. Open Discussion and Questions – the topic of support for PHRF by US Sailing was brought forth. Based on the Meeting at the Conanicut YC it was noted that the Olympics are a focus for US Sailing along with inclusivity and training. There was no mention of PHRF until the question portion of the meeting at which time the US Sailing speakers verbally stated that US Sailing fully supports PHRF and its mission. It was noted that there has been significant personnel turnover at PHRF and there may be financial issues as well.

Commodore Kern spoke with Jim Teeters in November regarding support for PHRF from US Sailing and has not heard back.

Bill Kneller also mentioned the turnover as a contributing issue at US Sailing

Alex Kaebel indicated that he felt PHRF-NB was doing a good job and was a well-run organization. He also stated that he understood US Sailing was undergoing personnel changes.

The question of when 2022 registrations would be available was addressed by Roy Guay who stated March was the target date.

  1. Adjournment – no further questions prompted a motion to adjourned which was seconded and approved.

29 November, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes of November 2021 Meeting

Date:            Monday, Nov 29, 2021

Location:      Zoom

  1. Call to Order: 6:45pm
  2. Roll Call: Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Grimes, Committee Member, Todd Johnston, Committee Member; Ken Madeiro, Committee Member; Kathy Rotsky, Administrator

III.            Approval Meeting Minutes: Motion made and seconded to accept and approve the minutes of the September 27, 2021 meeting. Members present voted in favor.

  1. Ratings Review Request:
  2. a)   Graves, Mike Zani;  Structural Furlers – Roller Furling Credit, A request was sent to the committee to allow a credit of 3 seconds for structural roller furlers. Members present voted to deny Mike Zani’s request with Bob Horton abstaining. The current rule is intended to encourage cruisers to race not provide a credit to boats set up for racing.
  3. Provisional Ratings Review:
  4. a)        Gleam, 12 meter – PHRF-NB will wait for the class response before establishing PHRF ratings on 12 meter boats
  5. b)        Certificate 16004 – Red Herring, Goetz Custom, Dave Hubbard owner, current base rating is 10. Will few 2021 race results members present agreed to leave the base rating at 10.
  6. c)         Certificate 13477 – Luna, Friendship 75, Joe Cleverdon owner. Base rating is -12. As the rating has previously been adjusted the members present agreed that there should not be any change
  7. d)        Discussion regarding the C&C 30 sport boats will be carried over to the next meeting.
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  9. a)             Communication with US Sailing and proposed agenda to US Sailing;  Will update, that in speaking with US Sailing they have promised to work on the PHRF side of US Sailing.
  10. b)             Final review of proposed changes to:
  11. i)           Rules for 2022 and change summary, Attachment A  – review of changes and corrections made.
  12. ii)          Principles of Narragansett Bay PHRF, Attachment B – reviewed by members present.

iii)         Roller Furling & Cruising Headsail Credits Explained, Attachment C – reviewed by members present

  1. iv)         Rig Measurements and Definitions – reviewed by members present

VII.            New Business:

  1. a)        Annual Meeting: January 25 (Tue) 2022 – Zoom and/or Bristol YC.

VIII.            Adjournment: 8:10pm

25 October, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes October 25

Date:    Monday, October 25, 2021

Location:  Zoom

  1. Call to Order:1837
  2. Roll Call: Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore;  Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasure; Paul Grimes, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member; Vin McAteer, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, administrator

        III.     Approval Meeting Minutes: September 27, 2021 approved with 1 change

  1. Appeals: None
  2. Ratings Review:
  3. Provisional:
  4. Certificate 15987 – Celeritas,  Figaro 3  – members present agreed that not enough race results exist to determine if the provisional rating of 48 should be adjusted. Carried over to 2022.
  5. Certificate 16221- Christopher Dragon, Ker 40 – IRC has this boat at -39, NE at -39 NB at -36,                              members present agreed to leave the -36 as provisional.
  6. Certificate  15464 – Dancing Bear III, Alden 50 CC’ – the furling in mast mainsail is not in the                           provisional base but treated as an adjustment, members present agreed to leave the provisional                           rating as 102.
  7. Certificate 15957 – Gleam, 12 meter – members present agreed to accept the rating of the Class                           Association.
  8. Certificate 16001 – Messing About, Beneteau 46 – YRALIS has the boat at 78 NB has the boat at                           86, members present agreed to leave the rating at 86.
  9. Boats with Δ > ± 9, 2021 certs found in Attachment A:
  10. Certificate 15813 – Little Zilla, ALERION EXPRESS 28 ODR – NE has this model at 158, NB has                           at 148 members present agreed that further review of our rating should be initiated.
  11. Certificate 15985 – Masquerade, BALTIC 47 – NE rates these boats at 12 ORC Club converts to                           33, members present agreed to leave as 33.
  12. Certificate  15989 – Frolic, Navy 44 – this boat is a yawl NE has at 90, NB has at 78, members                           present agreed that further review of our rating should be initiated.
  13. Certificate  15895 – Bizzy Ball, NONSUCH 30 – ORC Club at 700 converts to 150, NE has these at                       177, NB rates as 207, Ct has a large group and rates them at 189, members present agreed that                           more information from CT should be requested to make a final decision.
  14. Certificate  15562 – Windswept, PEARSON 33 – ORC club of 702, NE has these at 177, eastern CT                     at 180, NB rates them at 189, members present agreed to leave the rating at 189
  15. Certificate 15771 – Chairman Arafat, PEARSON ELECTRA – members present agreed to leave the                     current rating in place.
  16. Certificate  15445 – Adelina, PEARSON ENSIGN – NE rates these at 270, CT at 267, NB at 255,                           members present agreed to leave the current rating in place.
  17. Certificate  15606 – Hey 19, RHODES 19 – members present agreed to leave the current rating in                           place.
  18. Certificate  15936 – IMPISH, SWAN 371 – NE rates these at 114, NB rates at 126 members present               agreed to leave the current rating in place.
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  20. a)               Communication with US Sailing. Tentative agenda to US Sailing; Will to update. Will reported that no progress has been made with communications with US Sailing.
  21. b)              Proposed changes to the rules for 2022 update from Sept discussion. Attachment B

Under 4. Definitions it was agreed by members present to remove any reference under P & E of measurements if no black band exists.

A discussion of measurements of SPL clarified how the measurement should be taken.

Under 5.1 the designation and term ODR will be eliminated. A review of any boat with such designation will be performed and notifications will be sent out to certificate holders.

Under 6.2 D it was discussed that if a boat applied for a cruising headsail credit no other certificate would be issued. Also under this topic if a boat with a cruising headsail credit raced out of the PHRF-NB area they could use any other areas rating certificated issued for that boat.

A subset of this discussion was if a rating change for a different size headsail was received should a new certificated be required or a change to the existing certificate?

Under 6.4 the definition was agreed to be deleted as it was a duplicate of a previous definition.

Under 8.1 A discussion of requiring any new headsail to be reported ended without a clear decision. Also discussed was the fact that we do not make mention of power winches being subject to a rating adjustment. It was agreed to not address this topic.

  1. c)               Proposed changes to Guide for Yacht Clubs & Race Committees for 2022, Attachment C – This is mostly a complete rewrite.
  2. d)              Add Graduated costs: $50 new Cert, $25 Change to Cert, $100 new Cert or Change within 10 days of requirement. It was agreed by the members present that the 10 day requirement should be 5 days as reflected in the change of the September minutes

       VII.    New Business:

        Revised” Principles of Narragansett Bay PHRF” Attachment D a change noted was to Article IV 4.3.7          removing the last sentence.

        4.3.7 Each member of the Rating Committee shall have one (1) vote. However, no member may vote, nor be         present for the vote, on the rating of a yacht(s), or any rating adjustments thereto, which directly affects the         rating of any yacht(s) upon which the member regularly sails. To the extent that members may vote on the         adjustment(s) or ratings(s) of those yachts(s) in the same class as the yacht(s) upon which the member         regularly sails.

Also a change noted was to Article V 5.1.5

5.1.5 All appeals shall be acted upon within fourteen (14) forty –five (45) days of receipt, unless no prejudice shall result from a delay thereof.

5.2.5 Was left as is

The Committee decision and all rationale thereof, shall be returned, in writing, to the appellant within seven (7) days of the hearing

  1. a)                   Roy asked members to submit any changes to the website to him so that he can talk to Erik about                            feasibility and cost.
  2. b)                   Date and place for the annual meeting needs to be decided in November.
  3. c)                   Meeting Nov 29 – Zoom and/or place

     VIII.    Adjournment:

 

Attachment A

Attachment B  Proposed changes to the rules for 2022

  1.      Definitions (In order as they appear in Certificate’s Application)

P                                           Mainsail luff length from the top of the boom to the bottom of the upper mast band .  If no band, to the top of the main halyard sheave.

E                                           Foot length of the sail from the aft face of the mast to inboard edge of the band boom, if no band, to the clew in its most outboard position.

SPL                                        Spinnaker/whisker pole length is measured from the center line of  the mast (fore side) to the extreme outboard end of the fitting, with the spinnaker/whisker pole in its mast fitting and set in a horizontal, athwart-ship position.

Py/P2                                                Mizzen luff length …

Ey/E2                                               Mizzen foot length …

Max Draft                             Maximum depth …

Other Ballast                        Note any additional ballast with amount and location, such as bilge ballast or corrector weights. If Port & Stb’d water ballast , total gallons on one side.

Reaching Headsails  (Flying Headsails)

                                             A headsail that is not attached to the headstay and spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length.

Propeller Installation      How the propeller installed, aperture, exposed shaft, sail drive, thru keel, and drop box. shaft/strut, etc

Note:  “Aperture” is where the propeller is located in a faired opening between full keel and attached rudder

“Thru Keel” is where the propeller shaft exits from the trailing edge of the keel.

5.1.            PHRF-NB considers the base boat to be as follows:

  1. ODR (One Design Rating) – This Base Rating will take into account standard rig measurements (I, J, P, E), sail sizes/areas, Displacement and crew requirements as defined in the Class Rules.  An ODR Base rating shall remain in place as long as there is an active Class (The Class must have a National/Regional Championship on an annual basis).
  2. Base Boat Rating – This Base Rating will take into account standard rig measurements (I, J, P, E), sail sizes/areas, Displacement as the boat was designed or from inactive original OD Class information.
  3. One Design boats that are not in compliance with the class rules will receive adjustments to the ODR Base rating and be nomenclatured as  “ODM” (One Design Modified).  All variations shall be reported to the Rating Committee.  If the excursion(s) is deemed significant, a PHRF-NB base rating will be issued, which notes the modification(s).

6.2  Headsails

  1. Roller Furler Credit      (+3)

Class Boats or a custom boat equipped by the original manufacturer with a roller furler, upon which the base boat handicap is established, are not eligible for a roller furl credit .

d.                 Cruising Headsail Credit (+6) Cruising Headsail Credit     (+6)

  1. Cruising Headsails shall comply with the following:ii.         The cruising headsail shall have a luff length 2.5% of the “I” measurement shorter than the head stay length as measured from the deck sheer line to the mast intersection.

………………..

vii.   The cruising headsail is regularly used as the primary genoa/headsail when the boat is racing, day sailing or cruising during the sailing season, in or out of PHRF-NB’s region .

6.4  Reaching Headsails (Flying Headsails)

  1. These sails are defined as either spinnakers that do not conform to 6.3.b.iii. or headsails not conforming to 6.2.a. These sails are defined as a headsail that is not attached to the headstay (6.2.a.) and a spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length (6.3.b.iii.).

Table I: Propeller Adjustment

Position # of Blades Type of Propeller Sec/Mile
Aperture 3 Solid 6
Aperture 2 Solid 3
Aperture 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding -3
Exposed Shaft 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Exposed Shaft 2 Solid 6
Exposed Shaft 3 Solid 12
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Folding 0
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Solid Varied  3
Sail Drive 3 Solid 6
Thru Hull 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Thru Hull 2 Solid 3
Thru Hull 3 Solid 6
None/Insufficient – – – – – – -3
Outboard (not in water) – – – – – – 0
Drop Box Propeller 2 or 3 or 4 Solid Varied

7.4  Keel Type Changes / Modificatios

  1. Dagger boards – 0 sec/mile
  2. Deep draft, wing, bulb/strut, canting, etc changes will be addressed individually by the Rating Committee.

  8.1.    Reportable Modifications

  1. Increasing the size of sails.  All sails, new to the boat, shall be reported and the application shall be

 

Attachment C  –  Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

January 2022

PHRF of Narragansett Bay

Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

 

 

  • Purpose:       To provide basic information to assist Yacht clubs and Race Committees organize and run regattas using PHRF-NB

  • Background:            PHRF-NB, which rates approx. 500 boats, is one of the larger PHRF fleets in the United States.  We rate boats, sailing in and around coastal Narragansett Bay and on the open coast of Rhode Island and Block Island Sound.  We are independent of NBYA, and the NE and Long Island Sound PHRF organizations.  This independence is not unusual in the country, and while far from perfect, has led to a rating approach that adapts and rates far, far more boats for far longer than any other rating approach.

  • PHRF Rating Committee Make-up:              The PHRF-NB rating committee makes all decisions regarding boat ratings, appeals, etc.  It is led by the Rating Chairman, however, each member on the committee has an equal vote.  We attempt to have a broad-based committee from different geographical areas on the Bay, from different yacht clubs and of different professional backgrounds.  If your feel your Yacht club or area is not properly represented, please contact the PHRF office to discuss possible committee additions.

  • Rules/Procedures/Rating List:         “Principles of Narragansett Bay”, our Rating Procedures, By Laws, Notes to Appellants, Standard Adjustment Guidelines, latest Boat Ratings List, others comments, and results of appeals are all posted on our Web site < https://www.phrf-nb.org/>.

  • How to Handle Ratings: We email renewal ratings to all members by early March and applications and instructions are available from our office web site.  For your lowest hassles, we recommend the following:

1)  Your regatta/race notice state that “Valid 202x Narragansett Bay PHRF ratings are required.”  Certificate renewal notices are sent members in March of each year.  Help for any problem with certificate renewal can be obtained by calling the PHRF-NB office at 401 253-0207.  New 202x Certificate applications and instructions can be downloaded from our web site.

2)    Don’t get in the middle, keep the responsibility of filling-in the PHRF application and obtaining the PHRF-NB rating certificate on the sailor.  PHRF-NB does provide quick turnaround, is very flexible and will provide email service for special cases.

3)    Please be advise that PHRF does re-evaluate class boat’s base ratings and the criteria for adjustments from the base ratings in an attempt to stay current with technology improvements. Thus, previous boat ratings may not be valid for the current season.

Spinnaker and Non-spinnaker ratings:  PHRF issues both a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker rating for each boat. Your race instructions need to specify which one is to be used. Theoretically, the ratings reflect the speed difference between a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker, however, we strongly recommend that you do not mix spinnaker and non-spinnaker, within the same class.

  • Time-on-Time vs Time-on-Distance Scoring:            Races within the US are slowly changing to Time-on-Time (ToT), i.e. rating corrections are based on the time sailed whereas the earlier format of Time -on-Distance (ToD) uses time over a the distance.  The race committee can use the PHRF rating to score either way:  Your instructions need to state whether “Time-on-distance scoring will be utilized or “Time-on-Time” scoring will be utilized.  In general, we recommend ToT be used if your classes contain large rating spreads, i.e. greater than 30 sec/mile, your courses vary between “all reaching” and/or “all beating” since ToT would offer fairer scoring. However, Time-on-Distance scoring is more familiar to older racing sailors in the US and is applicable for Pursuit type races.

  • Safety/Boat size issues:      PHRF does not set safety criteria, e.g. lifelines, fire extinguishers, etc. PHRF does not restrict our ratings to any particular boat size or style. If you wish to limit your regatta to particular size of boats, e.g. “between LOA of 25 to 45 feet” or PHRF ratings, you must state such a restriction in your race instructions.  Likewise we do not specify instructions for safety in which our ratings are used for local club racing.  If you are the Organizing Authority for races traversing into Rhode Island Sound, Buzzards Bay and Long Island Sound or heading to Bermuda we recommend invoking the applicable recommendations found in US Safety Equipment Requirements – Coastal or Ocean grids (https://www.ussailing.org/competition/offshore/safety-information/ser-world-sailing-special-regulations/).  We also recommend when a boat checks in at the beginning of the race that the boat reports the number of “Souls on Board”.  Your race instructions must specify any safety or ORC safety requirements.

  • Crew Weight Limitations:          PHRF does not restrict the number/weight of crew on any particular boat.

  • Class splits/Sport Boats:          Classes with rating spreads of 30 sec/mile or less are best.  In addition, boat types should also be considered. There is a major problem with “Sport Boats” e.g. Melges 24, 30, Viper 840, VX-1, etc racing in the same class as normal boats as their speed on reaches and maneuverability are significantly different than the norm. All attempts should be made to segregate sport boats into their own separate class.

  • Major Regatta and General support:           For a major regatta, the race notice should specifically state that current PHRF-NB ratings are required, and that applications must be submitted by a certain date prior to the regatta.  PHRF-NB would be pleased to work with you on any race notices, and offers to provide any last-minute ratings just prior to the regatta, but these should be limited to special cases.  Please feel free to ask for any advice from PHRF on class splits, regatta notices or race instructions, crew limitations, etc.

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Attachment D

PRINCIPLES OF PHRF OF NARRAGANSETT BAY

(i)  FORWARD

As long as boats of different designs have raced against one another, skippers have sought an equitable method of handicapping. Various systems have been based on boat performance or measurement, or a combination thereof. In Southern California, where PHRF originated, one method or another of performance handicapping has been in use since 1906.

Measurement-based rating systems such as IOR, or IMS have proven to be costly, and complex. Most importantly, yacht designers have been able to “out-design” the rule, resulting in inequities that cannot be corrected. Therefore, many skippers have turned to the performance-based handicap system as the best assurance of their continued opportunity to compete fairly against all designs, new and old. In response to this, the PHRF system has spread rapidly throughout the country and is the predominant rating system in use in the United States. In Narragansett Bay alone, there are over 600 boats rated under PHRF.  There are no national PHRF ratings per se, and the US SAILING National PHRF Committee is only advisory in nature. However, a listing of all the PHRF ratings throughout the country is published by US Sailing and PHRF of Narragansett Bay frequently discusses ratings with other areas.

A brief explanation of the PHRF system is as follows.

(ii)  PERFORMANCE HANDICAPPING

PHRF performance handicaps are boat performance handicaps based on the speed potential of the boat determined, as far as possible, by observations of race results. The intent of PHRF handicapping is that any well-equipped, well-maintained and well-sailed boat has a good chance to win; and any boat that wins a PHRF race is indeed well-equipped, well-maintained, and well-sailed. Handicaps are adjusted, as needed, on the basis of the boat’s performance so that each boat will have an equal opportunity to win.  This is the fundamental concept.

PHRF handicaps are not intended to reflect the capability of the skipper and crew. Handicaps are not adjusted to permit a poor or careless skipper to score in the upper third of the fleet. Doing well in a race, therefore, requires the exercise of skill and ability. Consistently poor performance, sloppy maintenance, or deliberately holding back will not result in a more favorable handicap. Conversely, if a skipper and crew sail the boat well and consistently place high this will not, by itself, lead to a handicap that is less favorable than that of the actual performance potential of the boat.

If observed, actual performance is limited, e.g. for a new boat or if there is very limited race results in Narragansett Bay, the committee looks to PHRF ratings and results in other geographic areas and at technical parameters to help establish an equitable handicap.

(iii)    BOAT DESIGN

Under PHRF well designed and constructed boats are not expected to be obsoleted by new designs. PHRF does not use measurement formulas to determine handicaps because any formula, once established, can be circumvented by a clever designer. Under PHRF, as faster designs appear they are handicapped accordingly. PHRF does look at IOR and IMS ratings, and various technical parameters, to help determine a rating for a new boat or for appeals, but these design predictions are used for guidance only.

It is the intention of PHRF-NB to discourage “rule beating” and handicap boats in an “as-built” configuration. PHRF-NB will adjust the handicaps of boats modified from the standard configuration to compensate for any expected speed advantage due to boat modifications, sail size, etc.

Finally, PHRF does not make any safety judgments, or assessment or judgments on suitability of the design of any boat. We only try to assess the speed potential, and thus the PHRF rating, of a boat.

(iv)  COURSES

PHRF handicaps are intended for closed course as well as offshore and overnight races with a balance of windward, reaching and leeward legs where the entire sail inventory carried by each boat may be used. The system works well provided wind conditions affect all boats equally. It may not provide equitable handicaps for extremely short races, predominantly off-wind races, or predominately “beating” races or “twilight type” racing (i.e., dying breeze)

One simple, all purpose rating, in seconds per mile, is provided for spinnaker races and for non-spinnaker races. Although one rating may, for the non-standard conditions noted above, not be equitable, it is easily understood and desired by racers and race committee alike. Time on time (TOT) scoring is suggested for those races which are not “balanced” and have large PHRF rating spreads in a class.

(v)  RATING COMMITTEE

The goal of PHRF of Narragansett Bay is to have a well balanced, objective, and competent rating committee.  To achieve this, we attempt

to have members:

1) from different yacht clubs and geographic areas within the bay and the coast of Rhode Island,

2) who sail different size and types of boats in varied regattas,

3) who have different technical backgrounds, and on the water sailing abilities, and

4) who consistently exhibit objective, honest and equitable opinions and recommendations.

ARTICLE I – NAME AND OVERVIEW

1.1 The name of this organization shall be Performance Handicap Racing Fleet of Narragansett Bay (PHRF-NB). It will be an organization for sailors racing under the performance handicap system sailing in and around coastal Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island Sound and on the open coast of Block Island Sound, and will be the performance handicapping body for the Narragansett Bay Yachting Association (NBYA) and those clubs and associations that desire to use its services.  It shall be an association member of NBYA.

ARTICLE II – OBJECTIVES

2.1  It shall be the prime objective of this organization to promote performance handicap racing of racer/cruiser boats on Narragansett Bay.

2.2    It shall also be the objective of this organization to establish and maintain an equitable system of performance handicap ratings for yachts owned or chartered by members.  This system shall be based on the observed speed potential of rated yachts.

2.3    It shall also be an objective of this organization to assist yacht clubs and other race sponsors in the application of the PHRF handicapping system and to furnish information concerning the system and its application to interested organizations.

ARTICLE III – MEMBERSHIP AND DUES

3.1    Regular membership is open to any owner or charterer of a qualifying yacht.

3.2    Club membership is a separate class of membership open to any yachting group, whether or not such group is affiliated with NBYA.

3.3    Associate membership is open to any person who has a genuine interest in furthering the objectives of PHRF-NB.

3.4    The Executive Council reserves the right to deny or suspend membership for    due cause.

3.5    The schedule of dues shall be set by the Executive Council.

ARTICLE IV – MANAGEMENT

4.1    Executive Council

4.1.1  The management of this organization is vested in the Executive Council which shall decide matters of policy and be responsible for implementing that policy, setting dues, and adopting “Principles of PHRF-NB”, and “PHRF-NB Regulations (current year)”.

4.1.2  The Executive Council shall be composed of the four (4) officers of PHRF-NB. These officers are (1) Commodore, (2) Secretary, (3) Treasurer and (4) Rating Chairman.

4.1.3  A quorum for a meeting of the Executive Council shall consist of three (3) of its members.

4.2    Nominating Committee

4.2.1  The Nominating Committee shall consist of the immediate past Commodore of PHRF-NB, the present Commodore of PHRF-NB, and the present Rating Committee Chairman.  This Committee shall submit a slate of proposed officers at the annual winter meeting.

4.2.2  A quorum for this committee shall consist of all of its available members.

4.3    Rating Committee

4.3.1  The Rating Committee shall be responsible for organizing and administering the system of handicaps. It shall be governed by the “Principles of PHRF-NB,” these By-Laws and “PHRF-NB Regulations (current year).”

4.3.2  The Rating Committee Chairman shall call and conduct meetings of the committee and shall render a final and binding decision on questions properly brought up before the committee.

4.3.3  The Rating Committee Chairman shall call, as a minimum, quarterly meetings of the Rating Committee.

4.3.4   Rating Committee meetings may be held by in a hybrid format combining both remote access and in-person attendance.  In addition, the Executive Committee, or the Rating Committee Chairman may in its discretion permit entirely virtual meetings.

4.3.5  The Rating Committee Chairman shall use reasonable efforts and due diligence to ensure, when virtual or hybrid meetings are held, that the remote access is available to the members wishing to participate.

4.3.6  The ” PHRF-NB Regulations (current year).”” shall be the operational guidelines to the Rating Committee in establishing, maintaining, or altering the ratings of yachts.

4.3.7  Each member of the Rating Committee shall have one (1) vote. However, no member may vote, nor be present for the vote, on the rating of a yacht(s), or any rating adjustments thereto, which directly affects the rating of any yacht(s) upon which the member regularly sails. To the extent that members may vote on the adjustment(s) or ratings(s) of those yachts(s) in the same class as the yacht(s) upon which the member regularly sails.

4.3.8  A quorum for a meeting of the Rating Committee shall consist of four (4) of its members.

4.3.9  In the absence of a quorum at a meeting of the Rating Committee, the members present may assign tentative handicaps to boats not previously assigned handicaps by the Committee. Such handicaps must be ratified subsequently by a vote of the Rating Committee at which a quorum exists.

4.4   Other Committees

4.4.1  Other Committees, as required, shall be appointed by the Rating Committee Chairman or by the Commodore, as appropriate.

4.5    Elections and Appointments

4.5.1  The Commodore of PHRF-NB shall call an Annual Meeting to be held in the winter. This meeting shall be held in the months of January or February.

4.5.2  The Officers of PHRF-NB shall be elected annually by majority vote of the membership present. Nominations from the floor may be made in addition to the proposed slate from the Nominating Committee.

4.5.3  The Rating Committee shall consist of the Chairman, who shall be elected in accordance to section 4.5.2, and ten (10) members appointed annually by the Executive Council at a meeting held not later than April 1st each year.

4.5.4  Any committee member, or member of the Executive Council, may be removed from office for cause by a majority vote of the Executive council.

4.5.5  Committee or Executive Council vacancies may be filled by appointment of the Executive Council for a term of office expiring at the next Annual Meeting.

ARTICLE V – APPEALS

5.1    Overview

5.1.1  The handicap appeal process shall incorporate two (2) levels. The first level is an appeal to the Rating Committee, the second level is to US Sailing.

5.1.2  Any member of PHRF-NB may appeal the rating of his/her own yacht.

5.1.3  Any appeal of the rating of another member’s yacht must be filed by a minimum of two (2) members of PHRF-NB. Appeals must be received at the PHRF-NB office with forty-five (45) days of the original correspondence.

5.1.4  All appeals must first be submitted, in writing, to the Rating Committee.

5.1.5  All appeals shall be acted upon within fourteen (14) days of receipt, unless no prejudice shall result from a delay thereof.

5.1.6  All interested parties shall be afforded the opportunity to appear, and present evidence, at any hearing conducted in accordance with sections 5.2, 5.3, and 5.4.

5.2    Appeals to the Rating Committee

5.2.1  All appeals shall first be made to the Rating Committee.

5.2.2  The Committee may table, or reject, an appeal if its feels insufficient information is presented.

5.2.3  The format for the appeal hearing shall be at the discretion of the Committee.

5.2.4  The Committee reserves the right to refer any appeal directly to US PHRF.

5.2.5  The Committee decision and all rationale thereof, shall be returned, in writing, to the appellant within seven (7) days of the hearing.

5.3    Appeals to US PHRF

5.3.1  After the appeal process described in section 5.2 have been exhausted, an appeal can be forwarded to the US PHRF Selected

Appeals Committee for resolution.

5.4    Appeal of Another Yacht’s Rating

5.4.1  In addition to this section 5.4, sections 5.1, 5.2, and 5.3, apply to the appeal of another yacht’s rating.

The owner of the protested yacht shall be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing and provided a written summary of the facts presented in the appeal.  See Appendix A:  Rating Committee Procedures for appeal of another yacht’s rating by competitors

5.4.2

ARTICLE VI – AMENDMENTS

6.1    Only proposed By-Law amendments submitted in accordance with section 6.4 may be voted on at the Annual Meeting.

6.2    The Executive Council may propose any by-law amendment in accordance with section 6.4.

6.3    A minimum of ten (10) members of PHRF-NB may propose an amendment to these By-Laws by submitting such proposal, in writing, to the Executive Council no later than October 31st of each year. Notification of such proposed amendment shall be in accordance to section 6.4.

6.4    These By-Laws may be amended at the Annual Meeting by a two-thirds vote of the membership in attendance. Notification of the By- Law change shall be mailed to the membership at least fourteen (14) days prior to the date of the Annual Meeting.

ARTICLE VII – DISSOLUTION

7.1    Any proposal to dissolve PHRF-NB must be presented to the membership in the same manner as an amendment to the By-Laws proposed in accordance to Article VI.

7.2    After a notice of such proposal presented in accordance with section 7.1. PHRF-NB may be dissolved by a two-thirds vote of the membership in attendance at the Annual Meeting.

7.3    Upon dissolution of PHRF-NB, all liabilities of the organization shall be satisfied to the extent of the assets of PHRF-NB, with the remaining assets, if any, transferred to NBYA.

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Appendix A:

 Rating Committee Procedures for appeal of another yacht’s rating by competitors

 

Upon receipt of the appeal of another yacht’s rating by a minimum of two (2) members of PHRF-NB, copies of all documents relevant to the appeal are sent to the Rating Committee members and a hearing will be scheduled within forty five (45) days.  The owner of the protested yacht shall be notified of the appeal hearing fourteen (14) days prior to the hearing and provided a written summary of the facts presented in the appeal.  The hearing will take place at time and location designated and presided over by the Chairperson the PHRF-NB Rating Committee.  The parties to the appeal will so be notified.

During the hearing, the appellants designated spokesperson will be asked to present their position and the owner of the protested yacht will present their position.  In the same order the parties to the appeal will be allowed no more than a ten minute rebuttal. The Rating Committee members will then question both parties to the appeal.  When this portion of the hearing concludes, the parties to the appeal will be notified that the decision will be mailed/e-mailed within seven (7) days and that no further communications regarding the appeal will be acknowledged for one (1) year from the date of the decision.  The Chairperson will then dismiss the parties to the appeal.

After this dismissal and the departure of the parties to the appeal, the Rating Committee will continue to meet to resolve the appeal and shall proceed to a decision.  The Committee decision and all rationale thereof, shall be returned, in writing, to the appellants and the owner of the protested yacht within seven (7) days of the hearing.

[DK1]In 2022 there is a reordering of definitions and the listing here is showing only the changes from 2021 in red

[DK2]Quite a few boats have mast/boom bands which are inside of their respective sheaves

[DK3]Complete explanation on how to set the spin pole for measurement

[DK4]Added statement on water ballast

[DK5]Reaching Headsails added to definitions

[DK6]Reflects the types that are in the table/application

[DK7]This what we have been doing, but have not made such a statement.

[DK8]The original intent for this credit was for cruising boats that only had a cruising headsail and was the only headsail used during the sailing season, with the exception when it was prudent to hoist a storm headsail.

[DK9]To expand on the definition/meaning of 6.2.a and 6.3.b.iii

[DK10]Reflects what is on the Cert’s application

[DK11]Table modified to reflect committee’s discussion earlier this season.

[DK12]What is a “Drop Box Prop”?  Is PHRFNB currently giving a credit to any boat for a “Drop Box Prop”?

[DK13]We also want to review when these changes are made

Documents: 

PHRF-NB Minutes October 25 2021.pdf

27 September, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes September 2021

Date:            Monday, September 27, 2021
Time:           1830

Location:      Finn’s Harborside (East G)

  1. Call to Order – By Commodore Kern at 6:30pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Grimes, committee member; Todd Johnston, committee member; Ken Madeiro,  committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member;  Kathy Rotsky, administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: Minutes of the August 30, 2021meeting seconded and approved by members present

  1. Appeals: None
  2. Ratings: Certificate 16282 – Laniva, Gulfstar 37, Michael Garretson, owner.  Need base rating, no existing base in PHRF-NB for this model. After discussion by the members present it was agreed and voted to establish a base rating of 159
  3. Old
  4. a)               Communication with US Sailing. Will sent a letter to US Sailing with a list of questions, to report if he has received any response. – US Sailing Tom Barnes, Michigan PHRF responded that US Sailing is fragmented but agreed with many points in Will’s letter. The national meeting may be held by year end the goals in Will’s letter will be presented.
  5. b)              For Discussion at September’s Meeting: Proposed changes to the rules for 2022, Don’s suggested changes are found in Attachment A.  Please review, recommend modifications and any other changes to the rules you believe will enhance the racing experience.

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Review of provisional ratings – continued, to get list of all 2021 provisional from Bob and Kathy as done in previous years along with appeals.
  2. b)       Review Delta (>9sec) between PHRF-NB and –NE – Don provided data for review
  3. c)       Proposed changes to Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees for 2022, Don’s suggested changes are found in Attachment B
  4. d)       Fix webpage so PDF print of cert works – this seems to work for some certificate holders but not others. Further review needed.
  5. e)       Add Graduated costs: $50 new Cert, $25 Change to Cert, $100 new Cert or Change within 10 days of requirement – discussion to continue as system is limited.
  6. f)        Unify the Model on application; i.g., “ODR” means no variances from class rules, J boats are listed as J/xx, J xx, Jxx, J-xx, J.xx; “Mod” Modify means the boat was changed after factory delivery, “Cust” Custom means the boat was modified by the factory prior to delivery. – Discussion to continue to be as clear as possible. This item drew considerable discussion. Definition and rule to be worked on by Randy Shore.
  7. g)       New rating classification for twelves manufactured before 1945. “Vintage 12 Metre”; i.e., Gleam – agreed to use the definitions provided by Peter Giraud
  8. h)       Request of sailing non-profits for gratis certifications – Limit to the number of certs?  Members present voted to approve 3 certificates per applicant
  9. i)         Add to the website the “How to measure sails diagrams” – this has been done
  10. j)         Meeting Oct 25th – Zoom and/or place – agreed to Zoom

VIII.    Adjournment: 9:21pm

Attachment A 

PHRF-NB

Proposed changes to the rules for 2022

  1.      Definitions (In order as they appear in Certificate’s Application)

P                                           Mainsail luff length from the top of the boom to the bottom of the upper mast band .  If no band, to the top of the main halyard sheave.

E                                           Foot length of the mizzen sail from the aft face of the mast to inboard edge of the band boom, if no band, to the clew in its most outboard position.

SPL                                        Spinnaker/whisker pole length is measured from the center line of  the mast (fore side) to the extreme outboard end of the fitting, with the spinnaker/whisker pole in its mast fitting and set in a horizontal, athwart-ship position.

Py/P2                                                Mizzen luff length …

Ey/E2                                               Foot length …

Max Draft                             Maximum depth …

Other Ballast                        Note any additional ballast with amount and location, such as bilge ballast or corrector weights. If Port & Stb’d water ballast , total gallons on one side.

Reaching Headsails  (Flying Headsails)

                                             A headsail that is not attached to the headstay and spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length.

Propeller Installation      How the propeller installed, aperture, exposed shaft, sail drive, thru keel, and drop box. shaft/strut, etc

Note:  “Aperture” is where the propeller is located in a faired opening between full keel and attached rudder

“Thru Keel” is where the propeller shaft exits from the trailing edge of the keel.

5.1.            PHRF-NB considers the base boat to be as follows:

  1. One Design – Boats rated in a One Design Rating (ODR) configuration shall comply with the hull, appendage, rig, and sail configuration specified by its Class requirements/restrictions.  Additional class requirements such as limitations on crew weight, hiking, sail materials/weight, number of on-board sails, new sail purchases, etc., will not apply. Variations shall be reported to the Rating Committee.  If the excursion(s) is deemed significant, a PHRF-NB base rating will be issued, which notes the modification(s).

6.1 Mainsails

  1. Cruising Mainsail Credit                         (+3)

The mainsail’s material must be:  Woven Polyester, Polyester  Composite or Polyester laminate, with an additional layer of woven polyester (taffeta), or Composite skin, both with the intent of adding durability to the sail.  Exotic materials are not allowed; (Pentex, PEN, Aramid, Technora, Carbon, Spectra, Ultra-PE, etc.).

6.2  Headsails

  1. Roller Furler Credit      (+3)

Class Boats or a custom boat equipped by the original manufacturer with a roller furler, upon which the base boat handicap is established, are not eligible for a roller furl credit .

 

  1. Headsails shall comply with the following:
  2. All sails to be used shall have a luff length 2.5% of the I measurement shorter than the head stay length as measured from the deck sheer line to the mast intersection.

iii.   Roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be above the lifelines.   If no lifelines are installed the clews shall be 18″ minimum height above deck for boats under 30′ LOA. For boats 30′ and greater roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be 24″ minimum height above deck.

  1. When hoisted there shall not be sail area below a straight line drawn between the tack and clue “foot roach”. v.     The cruising headsail shall be attached to the bottom drum, hoisted in a foil extrusion and have a top swivel, the system shall be functional.

d.                 Cruising Headsail Credit (+6) Cruising Headsail Credit     (+6)

  1. Cruising Headsails shall comply with the following:ii.         The cruising headsail shall have a luff length 2.5% of the “I” measurement shorter than the head stay length as measured from the deck sheer line to the mast intersection.iii.       Roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be above the lifelines.  If no lifelines are installed the clues shall be 18″ minimum height above deck for boats under 30′ LOA. For boats 30′ and greater roller furl clues, when close hauled, shall be 24″ minimum height above deck.iv.       When hoisted there shall not be sail area below a straight line drawn between the tack and clue “foot roach”.

vii.   The cruising headsail is regularly used as the primary genoa/headsail when the boat is racing, day sailing or cruising during the sailing season, in or out of PHRF-NB’s region .

6.4  Reaching Headsails (Flying Headsails)

  1. These sails are defined as either spinnakers that do not conform to 6.3.b.iii. or headsails not conforming to 6.2.a. These sails are defined as a headsail that is not attached to the headstay (6.2.a.) and a spinnaker that does not conform to having a SMG ≥ 75% of the foot length (6.3.b.iii.).

Table I: Propeller Adjustment

Position # of Blades Type of Propeller Sec/Mile
Aperture 3 Solid 6
Aperture 2 Solid 3
Aperture 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding -3
Exposed Shaft 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Exposed Shaft 2 Solid 6
Exposed Shaft 3 Solid 12
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Folding 0
Sail Drive 2 or 3 Solid Varied  3
Sail Drive 3 Solid 6
Thru Hull 2 or 3 Feathering/Folding 0
Thru Hull 2 Solid 3
Thru Hull 3 Solid 6
None/Insufficient – – – – – – -3
Outboard (not in water) – – – – – – 0
Drop Box Propeller 2 or 3 or 4 Solid Varied

7.4  Keel Type Changes / Modificatios

  1. Dagger boards – 0 sec/mile
  2. Deep draft, wing, bulb/strut, canting, etc changes will be addressed individually by the Rating Committee.

  8.1.    Reportable Modifications

  1. Increasing the size of sails.  All sails, new to the boat, shall be reported and the application shall be accompanied with a sailmaker’s certificate.

 

Attachment B – Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

January 2022

PHRF of Narragansett Bay

Guide for Yacht Clubs and Race Committees

 

 

  • Purpose:       To provide basic information to assist Yacht clubs and Race committees organize and run regattas using PHRF-NB
  • Background:            PHRF-NB, which rates approx. 500 boats, is one of the larger PHRF fleets in the United States.  We rate boats, sailing in and around coastal Narragansett Bay and on the open coast of Rhode Island and Block Island Sound.  We are independent of NBYA, and the NE and Long Island Sound PHRF organizations.  This independence is not unusual in the country, and while far from perfect, has led to a rating approach that adapts and rates far, far more boats for far longer than any other rating approach.
  • PHRF Rating Committee Make-up:              The PHRF-NB rating committee makes all decisions regarding boat ratings, appeals, etc.  It is led by the Rating Chairman, however, each member on the committee has an equal vote.  We attempt to have a broad-based committee from different geographical areas on the Bay, from different yacht clubs and of different professional backgrounds.  If your feel your Yacht club or area is not properly represented, please contact the PHRF office to discuss possible committee additions.
  • Rules/Procedures/Rating List:         “Principles of Narragansett Bay”, our Rating Procedures, By Laws, Notes to Appellants, Standard Adjustment Guidelines, latest Boat Ratings List, others comments, and results of appeals are all posted on our Web site < https://www.phrf-nb.org/>.
  • How to Handle Ratings: We email renewal ratings to all members by early March and applications and instructions are available from our office web site.  For your lowest hassles, we recommend the following:

1)  Your regatta/race notice state that “Valid 202x Narragansett Bay PHRF ratings are required.”  Certificate renewal notices are sent members in March of each year.  Help for any problem with certificate renewal can be obtained by calling the PHRF-NB office at 401 253-0207.  New 202x Certificate applications and instructions can be downloaded from our web site.

2)    Don’t get in the middle, keep the responsibility of filling-in the PHRF application and obtaining the PHRF-NB rating certificate on the sailor.  PHRF-NB does provide quick turnaround, is very flexible and will provide email service for special cases.

3)    Please be advise that PHRF does re-evaluate class boat’s base ratings and the criteria for adjustments from the base ratings in an attempt to stay current with technology improvements. Thus, previous boat ratings may not be valid for the current season.

Spinnaker and Non-spinnaker ratings:  PHRF issues both a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker rating for each boat. Your race instructions need to specify which one is to be used. Theoretically, the ratings reflect the speed difference between a spinnaker and a non-spinnaker, however, we strongly recommend that you do not mix spinnaker and non-spinnaker, within the same class.

  • Time-on-Time vs Time-on-Distance Scoring:            Races within the US are slowly changing to Time-on-Time (ToT), i.e. rating corrections are based on the time sailed whereas the earlier format of Time -on-Distance (ToD) uses time over a the distance.  The race committee can use the PHRF rating to score either way:  Your instructions need to state whether “Time-on-distance scoring will be utilized or “Time-on-Time” scoring will be utilized.  In general, we recommend ToT be used if your classes contain large rating spreads, i.e. greater than 30 sec/mile, your courses vary between “all reaching” and/or “all beating” since ToT would offer fairer scoring. However, Time-on-Distance scoring is more familiar to older racing sailors in the US and is applicable for Pursuit type races.
  • Safety/Boat size issues:      PHRF does not set safety criteria, e.g. lifelines, fire extinguishers, etc. PHRF does not restrict our ratings to any particular boat size or style. If you wish to limit your regatta to particular size of boats, e.g. “between LOA of 25 to 45 feet” or PHRF ratings, you must state such a restriction in your race instructions.  Likewise we do not specify instructions for safety in which our ratings are used for local club racing.  If you are the Organizing Authority for races traversing into Rhode Island Sound, Buzzards Bay and Long Island Sound or heading to Bermuda we recommend invoking the applicable recommendations found in US Safety Equipment Requirements – Coastal or Ocean grids (https://www.ussailing.org/competition/offshore/safety-information/ser-world-sailing-special-regulations/).  We also recommend when a boat checks in at the beginning of the race that the boat reports the number of “Souls on Board”.  Your race instructions must specify any safety or ORC safety requirements.
  • Crew Weight Limitations:          PHRF does not restrict the number/weight of crew on any particular boat.
  • Class splits/Sport Boats:          Classes with rating spreads of 30 sec/mile or less are best.  In addition, boat types should also be considered. There is a major problem with “Sport Boats” e.g. Melges 24, 30, Viper 840, VX-1, etc racing in the same class as normal boats as their speed on reaches and maneuverability are significantly different than the norm. All attempts should be made to segregate sport boats into their own separate class.
  • Major Regatta and General support:           For a major regatta, the race notice should specifically state that current PHRF-NB ratings are required, and that applications must be submitted by a certain date prior to the regatta.  PHRF-NB would be pleased to work with you on any race notices, and offers to provide any last-minute ratings just prior to the regatta, but these should be limited to special cases.  Please feel free to ask for any advice from PHRF on class splits, regatta notices or race instructions, crew limitations, etc.

1/22

 [DK1]In 2022 there is a reordering of definitions and the listing here is showing only the changes from 2021 in red

Documents:

PHRF-NB Minutes September 27 2021 (002).pdf

30 August, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes August 2021

Date:          Monday, August 30, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Bristol YC / Zoom

  1. Call to Order : 6:30pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Todd Johnston, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: July 26, 2021 minutes seconded as presented and approved by members present

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       None
  3. Ratings:
  4. a)       Certificate 16172 – Tropical Storm, X-482, Ken Harris owner.  Different: LOA., Disp and Keel Wt. from X-482 Foxtrot (Base 36)
  5. b)       Certificate 16180 – Aquarius, Beneteau Figaro 2, Richard Feeny, owner. Different SPL and Sym vs As compared to Flying Turtle certificates 15719 &15720 determined that there was no issue, agreed by board members present.
  6. c)       Certificate 16181 – Hot Socks, Beneteau Figaro 2, Richard Feeny, owner. Different SPL and Sym vs As compared to Flying Turtle, certificates 15719 &15720 determined that there was no issue, agreed by board members present.
  7. d)       Certificate 16172 & 16225 – True North, J/105, Chris Robertson owner. SPL: 19.00’ owner entry was in error. Base is correct at 93.
  8. e)       Certificate 16172 – Verissimo, Alden 63, Chris Cannon owner. This boat was rated in August 2016. Base rating reviewed as 57 and members present accepted that rating for 2021.
  9. f)        Certificate 16172 – Outlander, Reichel Plugh 57, Ryan Novak-Smith owner. – Base rating needed. In 2020 this boat had a base rating of -72. It was agreed that additional information was needed to verify the base at -72
  10. g)       Discussion of ratings for Tartan 10 boats was brought to the table. These boat has a nationwide rating of 126 as a class carrying a 106% headsail. A discussion followed regarding if we should apply a credit of 9 sec for the small headsail. Or create a base of 135 and apply a credit of 9 sec to bring the rating to 126. The manner in which we rate class boats will be carried over to the 2022 certificate period. It was also discussed by the members present if PHRF-NB should not describe any boat as a One Design as One Design rules are not always used in PHRF ratings. This will be discussed further at future meetings.
  11. Old Business:

Update of planned dinner meeting at Finn’s Harborside (East G) Sept 27th.  Kathy will check to make sure they are open.

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Communication with US Sailing. Will has sent a letter to US Sailing with a list of questions but has not received any response as of this date.
  2. b)       For Discussion at September’s Meeting: Proposed changes to the rules for 2022, Don’s suggested changes are found in Attachment A, “Proposed Changes to the Rules for 2022”.  Please review, recommend modifications and any other changes to the rules you believe will enhance the racing experience.
  3. c)       Meeting – Sept 27:  Zoom and/or place

VIII.    Adjournment; 7:54pm

26 July, 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes July 2021

Date:          Monday, July 26, 2021
Time:         1830

Location:   Bristol YC / Zoom

  1. Call to Order  – 6:41pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer; Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Grimes, committee member; Mark Nannini, committee member; Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes:  Minutes of June 28, 2021 meeting voted to approved and seconded, passed by members present.

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       None
  3. Ratings:
  4. a)       Certificate 16114 – Shiksa, Oceanis 38.1 Beneteau DK, Vitaly Kmelnitsky owner. Members present agreed to use the base rating of the standard Beneteau Oceanis 38 which is 141 and adjust for the deep keel.
  5. b)       Certificate 16131 – Kirawan, Rhodes 52, Daniel Levangie owner. This boat compare favorably to Dorade and somewhat to Sunny but Sunny is lighter. This boat is in wood and was originally built in 1936. After a thorough discussion the members present agreed to a base rating of 81.
  6. c)       Certificate 16141 – Bahay, Dufour 325 Grand Large, Eric Schifrine owner. This boat compare to a Catalina 350 and regression calculations come out between152 to 168. Members present agreed to a base of 168.
  7. d)       Certificate 16158 – Alana, 6 Meter Thomas Rodes owner. This is a One design fleet and the size of sails is governed by the class.
  8. e)       Certificate 15545 – Wink, Graves Constellation 29.5, Gregory Anthony owner. Owner has provided a weight certificate. Adjustment for the missing weight number should be removed.
  9. f)        Certificate 16180 New Hope, Sea Sprite 23, Dom Messerli owner. The standard headsail size for these boats is a 135% genoa under class rules. This boat falls under the class rules and should have a base rating of 273. Members in attendance agreed to the base of 273.
  10. g)       A review of the adjustments on J30’s when the One Design pole is used in a non-One Design configuration. It was agreed that the oversized pole would require a penalty adjustment.

 

  1. Old Business:
  2. a)       None

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Communications with PHRF-South Shore. This group inquired if PHRF-NB would share the algorithm for our symmetrical vs asymmetrical spinnaker calculations. The members present agreed that we should share this information.
  2. b)       Changes to ECSA-PHRF rules, comments we to discuss their rules as part of the winter 2021 potential changes for 2022.
  3. c)       Suggestion of dinner meeting Sept 27th – Suggested that Finns Harborside in East Greenwich could be a good place. Vin and Todd will be asked for input.
  4. d)       Meeting – August 30th:  Zoom

VIII.    Adjournment – 7:40pm

28 June 2021 PHRF-NB Meeting Minutes

PHRF-NBMeeting AgendaJune 2021

Date:           Monday, June 28, 2021
Time:          1830

Location:     Bristol YC / Zoom

  1. Call to Order – 6:34pm
  2. Roll Call: Don Kern, Commodore; Will Museler, Rating Chairman; Roy Guay, Treasurer: Bob Horton, Secretary; Paul Cronin, committee member; Paul Grimes, committee member; Ken Madeiro, committee member; Moose McClintock, committee member; Randy Shore, committee member;  Kathy Rotsky, PHRF-NB Administrator

III.    Approval Meeting Minutes: May 24, 2021 motion made and seconded and approved by members present to accept the minutes reflecting one change as noted.

  1. Appeals:
  2. a)       Certificate 15987 – Celeritas, Figaro 3, Malcolm Gefter, owner – Appeal attached below. Mr.Gefter presented detailed race results for the races that he had competed in for 2021. He spoke of the reasoning behind request and the actual performance of the boat in relation to the VPP for the boat as well as unique features of the boat which hinder large crews. In the normal wind speed on Narragansett Bay. His presentation included that the foils only come into play at 22 degrees and with 18+ knots of wind. The foils create drag downwind slowing the boat. He indicated that he removed the Code 0 to eliminate the penalty it carried. Comparing it to the Sunfast 3300 he stated that he is at a significant disadvantage with the ratings as well as performance and race results bear that out.

The members present who had observed the performance of this boat agreed that the foils leave a lot to be desired. There is a certain condition where the design will excel which is reaching but not in most conditions on Narragansett Bay. In the 2020 Vineyard Race the 2 Figaro 3’s finished 1 & 2 in class and 3 & 8 in fleet under conditions that the boat was designed for. In the 2021 NYYC Annual Regatta the boats sailed painfully slow upwind as well as downwind and finished last. In the 2021 Leukemia Cup with wind speed of 14 knots the boat again finished last. Chesapeake Bay has the rating set at a base of 45. The Figaro 2 rates 57 base and sails at 69 in PHRF-NB.  After a long and thorough discussion the members present agreed to a provisional base of 48.

  1. Ratings:
  2. a)       Certificate 15545 – Wink, Graves Constellation, Gregory Anthony, owner. Waiting for sail measurements and needs to provide verification on other modifications that are not clear. Also owner was requested to have the boat weighed. A penalty if weight is not provided the same as sister ship Vela which was 3 sec will be assessed. Decision approved by the members present.
  3. b)       Certificate 15924 – Miss Molly, Oyster 55, Greg Morash owner. This boat is in need of a base rating, it compares to a Tayana 52 that has a base of 96 and Oyster 53’s and 55’s. This boat displaces 51,000 pounds and has various cruising amenities. After a thorough discussion by the members present it was agreed to assign a provisional base rating of 90.
  4. c)       Certificate 15981 – Midtown a racing, M32, Sam Hollowell owner. This is a multi-hull boat and should be referred to NEMA to obtain a rating as PHRF-NB does not issue multihull ratings. Members present agreed on this referral and to refund his $50.00 application fee.
  5. d)       Certificate 16052 – Salty Beach, Laguna Windrose 24, Brian Clayton owner. This design is similar to a Pearson Ensign which rates at 255. After review and discussion the members present agreed to a base of 255.
  6. e)       Certificate 16057 – Resolute V, IMX 40 Terrance Arndt owner. The owner submitted detailed information regarding rudder modifications and additional ballast. Based on the documentation presented and discussion of the existing rating and boat design it was agreed by the members present to adjust the rudder by -2 and a +2 adjustment for the ballast. The base rating remains at 42 and all other adjustments will be applied resulting in a sailing rating of 38 spinnaker and 61 non- spinnaker.
  7. f)        Certificate – 16069 Montego 25SD Friendship, Kenneth Wainer. The member presented reviewed the design of this 1982 boat and compared to a Balboa. After review and discussion the members present agreed to a base of 228.
  8. g)       Certificate -16008 – Dancin’Bare V; Robert Perry Custom Design 63, Jeffery Lichterman owner. Members present agreed to hold this certificate until more information obtained.
  9. h)       Certificate 16048 – Wilde Agnes, 1 Design 35 Modified, Paul Grimes owner. There are extensive modifications to this boat designed by Nelson Marek, which was built in 2000 by Carroll Marine. After reviewing the modifications which in some cases reversed back to the original design after the previous owner removed them and the changes in sail design which fall within the original specs it was agreed by the members present to leave the existing base rating and adjustments as is. Paul Grimes recused himself prior to the discussion and vote on this certificate.

 

  1. Old Business:
  2. a)       None

VII.    New Business:

  1. a)       Rating of Multihulls – As noted PHRF-NB does not issues certificates for multihulls
  2. b)       J/35, Seraphim, certificate 15665. Discussion of the current Cruising Headsail Credit Restrictions. This was submitted to the board for discussion base on the referenced boat that currently caries a cruising headsail credit but had raced in BIRW using a rating from out of district and not conforming to our requirements for the cruising headsail credit. It was agreed by the members present that PHRF-NB requirements did not carry over to other districts and could not create a rating issue in PHRF-NB.
  3. c)       Meeting – July 26th:  Zoom and/or place members present agreed that Zoom is more practical and encourages greater participation.

VIII.    Adjournment – 8:30pm

PHRF NARRAGANSETT BAY APPEAL FORM
   
Appeal of Yacht celeritas  
Owner Name malcolm gefter Class/Length  
Current Valid rating 17 Year 21 67  
Appellant’s name malcolm gefter  
Address 26 beacon hill rd City newport
State ri Zip Code 2840 Best phone number 6176972881
                 
Preparation details for Yacht being appealled
Sail inventory Sailmaker Material Weight Condition Age in months
Mainsail 1 north 3di   new  
Mainsail 2          
Jib 1 north 3di   new  
Jib 2          
Jib 3          
Jib 4          
Spinnaker 1 north nylon   new  
Spinnaker 2          
Spinnaker 3          
Spinnaker 4          
Other north CODE ZERO REMOVED FROM INVENTORY      
           
           
           
   
Type of bottom paint figaro class offshore Application method spray
Frequency of bottom cleaning 1-2/week Cleaning method diver
Dry or wet sailed wet Professionally prepared yes
If professionally prepared bottom, who prepared the boat beneteau/Lorient France
   
Crew information for Yacht being appealled
Number of years skipper has raced 20 number of crew on board (average) 3
Number of crew that race more fifty % of the events for this yacht 3  
Average years of crew’s racing experience (excluding skipper) 15  
   
Yacht’s race participation information
Number of races the yacht has been in during the most recent season
Evening   NBYA Races   One Design  
National Events 4 International Events    
                 

Text of additional comments

The Beneteau Figaro 3 is a one design class,designed primarily for offshore,harsh conditions and is meant to be sailed short-handed.Other offshore boats use water ballast like Sunfast3300, this boat has foils like an IMOCA 60.As evidenced in Vendee Globe and Ocean Race Europe , foils are NOT an advantage except for very special conditions of high wind, flat water. Since they cannot be retracted, in TWS less than 16-18Kts, they are a detriment in being drag only and no lift (righting moment) at low boat speeds, pretty much all upwind speeds. The max boat speed is 7.1 Kts upwind only achieveable at 15kts+ of TWS. and the boat must be heeled at 22 degrees to render the lifting surface parallel to water surface and thus useful lift. Downwind speeds and reaching are what the foils are good for but again boat speed must be greater than 14Kts to achieve a benefit and heel must be at least 15 degrees. So typical running with the A sail runner on the boat in VMG conditions produces only drag at TWS below 1518Kt-. Other good condition is with CODE ZERO at TWA of 120 degrees- we have removed the code zero because very little if ANY sailing inshore done at such angles.

  In summary, it is a 33 foot boat with extra drag compared to a “normal” 33 foot boat like a Melges 32 which I had and raced for 6 years. It had a PHRF rating of 60 and seemed quite fare given our results over the years racing PHRF. Our skill level was such that we won the Leukemia cup several times in around the island races, we won the Newport cup several times around the island, won the Conanicut YC round the island race, and was in the top ten world-wide sailing with pro crew sailing the boat One design.

That is all theory, but the results of last week NYYC regatta speaks for itself. WE sailed almost even with the best sailed Sunfast 3300 (BYTE) and better than the poorest 3300(Alchemist) but still lost because of our rating. Byte finished third overall with a 67 rating and all the miles sailed suggests we should have the same rating- —-we are at a clear disadvantage still upwind but in 15+ downwind we have a slight advantage. In over 25 TWS we would have an advantage but it is a very unlikely circumstance.

The results of last season with the boat sailed by professionals in doublehanded offshore configuration showed the SAME result relative to the Sunfast3300. In the New England solo twin race and the Ida Lewis distance race, the Beneteau could NOT beat the 3300 boat for boat as it was relatively light. In the Vinyard race where it was windy (25+) and with reaching possible, the boat could sail its rating. But with the demise of the Olympic doublehanded event, the boat will not sail offshore and for N.B. racing in 25+ will be very unlikely. Removal of the code zero also reduces the boats ability to reach at angles 95-130 where the boat has an advantage.

I know we sailed the boat well because we could match the polar VPP during racing. We had two of the three crew well-seasoned pro crew-Chuck Allen of North Sails and Erica Lush seasoned boat captain of 12M and excellent offshore sailor. The third crew was my wife who has raced for 20 years at pit. She has raced on Swan42, Melges 32 and J 105 One design for 20 years.

In addition to outcomes, it is clear that although we owed time to all other boats in our fleet we were clearly slower by a large margin expected for waterline differences for example compared to Mike Toppa on W43 . Our starts were all good including port tacking the entire fleet after one start and still coming third to the first top mark.

In order to be competitive and motivated, I suggest a rating equal to Sunfast 3300 of 67– and for sure if we just always win which would NOT have happened in the races mentioned- we would have been 4th, happy to change as would be appropriate. I feel the arguments are clear, and my skill level and crew work should have produced a more fair result.

Thank you